This is MMA and anything can happen Couture vs Toney is no different

I know a lot of people might just be sayin Randy will completely dominate James becuase u dont want to admit he has a good chance to lose and some of u might not no James at all and are assuming tht its a boxer with not alot of skill. but i would have to predict tht randy will be KO'd of course i would hate to see this happen but there is a good chance tht it could end up a bad day for the hard core MMA fans
there are reasons i think this will happen and i think people should really take it into consideration randys chin is not the same as it was back say 10 years ago now hes fighting a fighter with alot of knockout power and knows how to use it if uve seen some of James fights hes much faster then he looks, he has a good chin, great reflexes, and looks to counter, hes never been knocked out, hes one of the only 2 men to KO evader hollyfeild, James has a a low center of gravity and because of his fat might be harder to take him off balance toney may have a slight phisicaly advantage tht would allow him to see the shot coming and he can react quickly enough to catch randy which could be the beginning of the end, also Randy's dirty boxing obviously something tht boxers do quite a bit might get him caught coming in especially if hes rocked, also if u notice besides the height, wrestling and reach, toney is a much better boxing version of Chuck Liddle
Randy will have to emeditley take James off his feet completely to really be safe, because even in the clinch James may not be able to reverse him and wont be used to being controlled and probably wont be broken up quickly James will do anything he can to not get taken down so as soon as he feels randy going down he will counter with his uppercuts and hooks.
Randy should not stay stand for too long and keep away from toney try to get him coming forward to go for the shot, get to the clinch but preferably the ground, try not to kick because hell be off balance and toney will come forward and try to counter with obviously punches.
If randy gets him on his back the fist thing he should do is pass to a more dominate position like side control or mount so he can look for submissions pound on him so tht he makes a mistake and gives up his back he should go for submissions because wearing him down in a 15 min fight may not work to easy and i don think randy can knock him out.
i hope randy can pull this one off
so plz give ur opinions|||sry for making the post a bit long
Devs i would also like to here ur opinions on this topic|||I'm not giving Toney too much of a chance, but I don't think it will be as easy as some people say. However, this is Randy's game, and he'll surely come away with the win in the end. Toney will probably be like Kimbo on his back. Of course, it's difficult to say, but even if he is showing some skill in training, I have a feeling if Couture pressures him, he'll break.
That isn't to say he won't have a chance of course. If he comes out swinging he could give Couture some problems, and I worry about breaking away from the clinch ( which Randy will probably want to do.) If it goes to the ground however, I'm saying Couture all the way. I see him being able to end it before stamina becomes an issue if it goes there.
Looking forward to this fight though, should be interesting to see what happens. I think we're either guaranteed a complete * kicking or a real shock.||||||i believe toney will get overwhelmed, BUT i do realize things can change. i mean because kimbo looked better on the ground sometimes too but he got cut because of it too.|||i also doubt toney will be agressive hell be taunting randy if randy doesnt show agression for him to come in meaning randy will be doing most of the work and if james sees somthing he can capitalize on he will
also foot work can be very affective take down defense keep tht in mind toney wont be to focused on sprawling mostly just catching Couture coming foward|||He's an old boxer who's never been a KO artist. He's has a high body fat percentage and has never been pushed on a pace like Randy will push him. Yea he has a punchers chance but thats the ONLY chance he has. He'll have to catch Randy early in that first round, if he doesen't he'll be too tired and too beat up on to have enough power to do it in the later rounds. I say Randy by late 2nd round stoppage. Randy will get mount and drop absolute bombs on Toney until either Toney gives up or he rolls over and Randy will get the RNC.|||

He's an old boxer who's never been a KO artist. He's has a high body fat percentage and has never been pushed on a pace like Randy will push him. Yea he has a punchers chance but thats the ONLY chance he has. He'll have to catch Randy early in that first round, if he doesen't he'll be too tired and too beat up on to have enough power to do it in the later rounds. I say Randy by late 2nd round stoppage. Randy will get mount and drop absolute bombs on Toney until either Toney gives up or he rolls over and Randy will get the RNC.

James Toney not a Ko artist?
Pro Career
Total 83
Wins 72
By knockout 44
Losses 6
By Knockout 0
Amateur career
Total 33
Wins 31
By knockout 29
Losses 2
By knockout 0
I don't think Toney can win either (I love James as a boxer), but to say he is not a boxer with good KO power is insane. Toney will have the best chance to win in round one, after that its all Randy. My biggest worry about this fight is Toney will not be in shape for it and chances he's not. His track record for being in shape for his have been being spotty at best and wrost when he moved to HW. I just happen the fight is close and not a blowout. My bet, Randy wears him out on the cage in a clinch and takes him down and ends it with a 2 round TKO. Might end up, a boring fight TBH.
|||im just saying when ur gettin close to 50 ur not young at all when it comes to fighting and randy's slowing down hes not as great as he used to be yes randy is a better striker as far as head movement and footwork goes also his combinations are better but hes not a kicker also we all know randy is a master at GNP but james has a chin so it wont be tht easy but i do think when hes warned about defending himself by the ref hell go to his back, but i dont think he'll quit hes got a big ego and a lot of pride. Also just the fact tht randy has to come in to toney and he knows wht hes gonna try is a big factor,
and its not soo much hes a knock out artist its mostly tht randys chin isnt the same its very weakened now and i dont think a lot of people get tht boxers have to be able to take a lot of shots to the head and there sport revolves around punching so the successful ones ussualy have power or a great chin.
also being fat really isnt tht bad big country's fat but in some ways it helps most muscle bound guys are very top heavy and it makes the take downs come alot easier but his fat is closer to his center of gravity and if randy goes too low he could get kneed easy which can lead to a ko
chuck liddles 2 ko wins over him james is more defensively sound then chuck by a lot maby not for clinching and take downs but on the feet were u ussualy have to set the take down up with a bit of strikes it gets dangerous
i think people forget tht tim sylvia was ko'd by ray mercer it shows tht anythin can happin
im not sayin james is gonna walk through randy or tht hes better then randy i just think its not a good match up for randy|||

He's an old boxer who's never been a KO artist. He's has a high body fat percentage and has never been pushed on a pace like Randy will push him. Yea he has a punchers chance but thats the ONLY chance he has. He'll have to catch Randy early in that first round, if he doesen't he'll be too tired and too beat up on to have enough power to do it in the later rounds. I say Randy by late 2nd round stoppage. Randy will get mount and drop absolute bombs on Toney until either Toney gives up or he rolls over and Randy will get the RNC.

James Toney not a Ko artist?
Pro Career
Total 83
Wins 72
By knockout 44
Losses 6
By Knockout 0
Amateur career
Total 33
Wins 31
By knockout 29
Losses 2
By knockout 0
I don't think Toney can win either (I love James as a boxer), but to say he is not a boxer with good KO power is insane. Toney will have the best chance to win in round one, after that its all Randy. My biggest worry about this fight is Toney will not be in shape for it and chances he's not. His track record for being in shape for his have been being spotty at best and wrost when he moved to HW. I just happen the fight is close and not a blowout. My bet, Randy wears him out on the cage in a clinch and takes him down and ends it with a 2 round TKO. Might end up, a boring fight TBH.

i agree with everything u said i was kinda wondering wht jbrock was talkin about when he said hes never been a ko artist but i kinda think it will be hard for randy to completely gas toney in the first he has pretty good cardio for a heavyweight|||IMO, if Randy gets the take down in the first half of the first round, he wins it easy. I also think Randy trying to clinch and "dirty box" in the inside is a terribly bad idea for him because Toney can throw some nasty short punches from there.
But don't anyone for a second underestimate James toney. He's not as great as he used to be, not even close, but compared to most of the hand striking you'll see in MMA, he's the cream of the crop.
|||Great vid.im a big fan of toneys. he was my first live fight ive ever seen about 6 yrs ago. if he knoes some takedown D he could get some wins in mma. wish he was ten pounds lighter tho