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Friday, April 27, 2012
McCarthy Not Assigned to UFC 104
Referee “Big” John McCarthy will be conspicuously absent from UFC 104 this Saturday at the Staples Center in Los Angeles. The 15-year officiating veteran, who’s logged in nearly 600 fights worldwide dating back to UFC 2 and has a long background in helping shape the sport’s current rules, was not assigned by the California State Athletic Commission to work the event.
McCarthy, a California native, has been re-licensed in the state since November 2008, after returning from a yearlong retirement to pursue broadcasting opportunities. McCarthy has refereed and judged at multiple events in California this year.
McCarthy was also informed in mid-September that his application to referee fights in Nevada would be placed in a “pending” file by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. NSAC Executive Director Keith Kizer said the state had no space for McCarthy at this time.
However, that decision has prompted public comment speculating if McCarthy’s departure from officiating UFC events in late 2007 to work with rival promotions like Affliction as a commentator, along with statements he made while in that position, are being held against him.
“I contacted (the CSAC) and told them I was free on Oct. 24,” McCarthy told Sherdog.com Friday. McCarthy said he was later informed that he hadn’t been assigned to the event, the UFC’s first in California since UFC 76 in November 2007. McCarthy did not comment any further on the development.
Dave Thornton, interim executive officer of the California State Athletic Commission, replied to an email request from Sherdog last Thursday inquiring about criteria for referees to officiate UFCs and how those officials are selected to work shows.
“McCarthy is a licensed referee in California and as such is on our regular rotation list for MMA refs,” Thornton wrote. “McCarthy is assigned to a Strikeforce show in November in Fresno.”
Follow-up inquiries were sent Thursday and Monday to the CSAC’s Thornton asking for more specific criteria about who is assigned to referee UFCs, if McCarthy met the criteria, as well as which referees have been assigned to UFC 104. Those inquiries were not answered as of press time late Tuesday.|||Not surprising.|||Anyone know if he is licensed in Illinois?|||He is the best ref. That really sucks too. I bet there will be some controversial call now. Probably by Herb Dean. That guy is horrible. He makes so many mistakes. One time he didn't hear the bell and let the fighters keep on going. One of the fighters ended up getting busted up after the bell and tributed to his loss.|||i agree mcarthy's the best in the business, and id love to see him in the ufc again, but he made some bad comments about the ufc in the past so i wouldnt be suprised if he was blackballed by them|||
I disagree on Herb, I think he's the second best MMA ref out there, behind Big John|||I dont know, here is one of Herb Deans many screw ups..
*Edit* Also another bad call was Marcio Cruz vs Andrei Arlovski. Totally an illegal blow and should have stood them up and given Marcio Cruz as much time needed to recover. Instead he just asks him if he is ok and then lets the fight continue allowing Andrei to land a gnarly punch ending the fight.|||Not to pile oh ol' Herb here, because I do like him for the most part.
But he also made a VERY bad call imo in standing up the Marquardt Vs. Silva fight when Marquardt was controlling Silva on the ground and punching and elbowing him in the face lol. Not saying that Nate would have won as Silva didn't seem to be in any real danger, but Nate is a beast on the ground and proceeded to lose that fight on his feet after it got stood back up.
Bad call imo.
McCarthy, a California native, has been re-licensed in the state since November 2008, after returning from a yearlong retirement to pursue broadcasting opportunities. McCarthy has refereed and judged at multiple events in California this year.
McCarthy was also informed in mid-September that his application to referee fights in Nevada would be placed in a “pending” file by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. NSAC Executive Director Keith Kizer said the state had no space for McCarthy at this time.
However, that decision has prompted public comment speculating if McCarthy’s departure from officiating UFC events in late 2007 to work with rival promotions like Affliction as a commentator, along with statements he made while in that position, are being held against him.
“I contacted (the CSAC) and told them I was free on Oct. 24,” McCarthy told Sherdog.com Friday. McCarthy said he was later informed that he hadn’t been assigned to the event, the UFC’s first in California since UFC 76 in November 2007. McCarthy did not comment any further on the development.
Dave Thornton, interim executive officer of the California State Athletic Commission, replied to an email request from Sherdog last Thursday inquiring about criteria for referees to officiate UFCs and how those officials are selected to work shows.
“McCarthy is a licensed referee in California and as such is on our regular rotation list for MMA refs,” Thornton wrote. “McCarthy is assigned to a Strikeforce show in November in Fresno.”
Follow-up inquiries were sent Thursday and Monday to the CSAC’s Thornton asking for more specific criteria about who is assigned to referee UFCs, if McCarthy met the criteria, as well as which referees have been assigned to UFC 104. Those inquiries were not answered as of press time late Tuesday.|||Not surprising.|||Anyone know if he is licensed in Illinois?|||He is the best ref. That really sucks too. I bet there will be some controversial call now. Probably by Herb Dean. That guy is horrible. He makes so many mistakes. One time he didn't hear the bell and let the fighters keep on going. One of the fighters ended up getting busted up after the bell and tributed to his loss.|||i agree mcarthy's the best in the business, and id love to see him in the ufc again, but he made some bad comments about the ufc in the past so i wouldnt be suprised if he was blackballed by them|||
He is the best ref. That really sucks too. I bet there will be some controversial call now. Probably by Herb Dean. That guy is horrible. He makes so many mistakes. One time he didn't hear the bell and let the fighters keep on going. One of the fighters ended up getting busted up after the bell and tributed to his loss.
I disagree on Herb, I think he's the second best MMA ref out there, behind Big John|||I dont know, here is one of Herb Deans many screw ups..
*Edit* Also another bad call was Marcio Cruz vs Andrei Arlovski. Totally an illegal blow and should have stood them up and given Marcio Cruz as much time needed to recover. Instead he just asks him if he is ok and then lets the fight continue allowing Andrei to land a gnarly punch ending the fight.|||Not to pile oh ol' Herb here, because I do like him for the most part.
But he also made a VERY bad call imo in standing up the Marquardt Vs. Silva fight when Marquardt was controlling Silva on the ground and punching and elbowing him in the face lol. Not saying that Nate would have won as Silva didn't seem to be in any real danger, but Nate is a beast on the ground and proceeded to lose that fight on his feet after it got stood back up.
Bad call imo.
Cris Cyborg vs Marloes Coenen stare down
:)|||damn that was way more intense than I expected :)|||
Looks intense indeed.. :)|||'Cyborg' is a tranny lol. Theres NO way you can convince me otherwise lol. That jaw line, those arms, look at the hair on those arms lol, thats man hair haha. She will kill any chick they stick in front of her imo. She needs to fight dudes lol.
Maybe its not too late for 'China' to take up MMA and give her a run lol.|||
'Cyborg' is a tranny lol. Theres NO way you can convince me otherwise lol. That jaw line, those arms, look at the hair on those arms lol, thats man hair haha. She will kill any chick they stick in front of her imo. She needs to fight dudes lol.
Maybe its not too late for 'China' to take up MMA and give her a run lol.
* YOU! STUPID *!|||Another classic staredown from Wanderlei!|||
'Cyborg' is a tranny lol. Theres NO way you can convince me otherwise lol. That jaw line, those arms, look at the hair on those arms lol, thats man hair haha. She will kill any chick they stick in front of her imo. She needs to fight dudes lol.
Maybe its not too late for 'China' to take up MMA and give her a run lol.
* YOU! STUPID *!
This is why 13 year olds shouldn't be allowed on the internet lol.
So we're back to 1starring terms now huh Snakeeyezz?? And we were doing SO good there for a while lol.|||
'Cyborg' is a tranny lol. Theres NO way you can convince me otherwise lol. That jaw line, those arms, look at the hair on those arms lol, thats man hair haha. She will kill any chick they stick in front of her imo. She needs to fight dudes lol.
Maybe its not too late for 'China' to take up MMA and give her a run lol.
* YOU! STUPID *!
This is why 13 year olds shouldn't be allowed on the internet lol.
So we're back to 1starring terms now huh Snakeeyezz?? And we were doing SO good there for a while lol.
He was being serious? Why? :)|||
'Cyborg' is a tranny lol. Theres NO way you can convince me otherwise lol. That jaw line, those arms, look at the hair on those arms lol, thats man hair haha. She will kill any chick they stick in front of her imo. She needs to fight dudes lol.
Maybe its not too late for 'China' to take up MMA and give her a run lol.
* YOU! STUPID *!
This is why 13 year olds shouldn't be allowed on the internet lol.
So we're back to 1starring terms now huh Snakeeyezz?? And we were doing SO good there for a while lol.
He was being serious? Why? :)
Its just Snakeyezz. Thats his style. You'll learn lol. He LOVES me haha. (no h0m0, I hope lol)|||
'Cyborg' is a tranny lol. Theres NO way you can convince me otherwise lol. That jaw line, those arms, look at the hair on those arms lol, thats man hair haha. She will kill any chick they stick in front of her imo. She needs to fight dudes lol.
Maybe its not too late for 'China' to take up MMA and give her a run lol.
* YOU! STUPID *!
This is why 13 year olds shouldn't be allowed on the internet lol.
So we're back to 1starring terms now huh Snakeeyezz?? And we were doing SO good there for a while lol.
He was being serious? Why? :)
Its just Snakeyezz. Thats his style. You'll learn lol. He LOVES me haha. (no h0m0, I hope lol)
* YOU! STUPID *!|||
'Cyborg' is a tranny lol. Theres NO way you can convince me otherwise lol. That jaw line, those arms, look at the hair on those arms lol, thats man hair haha. She will kill any chick they stick in front of her imo. She needs to fight dudes lol.
Maybe its not too late for 'China' to take up MMA and give her a run lol.
All I know is that something is up with that.... thing.... Still, really love watching.... it... fight.|||
'Cyborg' is a tranny lol. Theres NO way you can convince me otherwise lol. That jaw line, those arms, look at the hair on those arms lol, thats man hair haha. She will kill any chick they stick in front of her imo. She needs to fight dudes lol.
Maybe its not too late for 'China' to take up MMA and give her a run lol.
* YOU! STUPID *!
This is why 13 year olds shouldn't be allowed on the internet lol.
So we're back to 1starring terms now huh Snakeeyezz?? And we were doing SO good there for a while lol.
Listen pillowbiter, when you type * like a middle school * you deserve to be one starred. You must have a thing for trannies.
If you're going to bag on Cyborg, bag on her skills not her looks, you *.
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'Cyborg' is a tranny lol. Theres NO way you can convince me otherwise lol. That jaw line, those arms, look at the hair on those arms lol, thats man hair haha. She will kill any chick they stick in front of her imo. She needs to fight dudes lol.
Maybe its not too late for 'China' to take up MMA and give her a run lol.
* YOU! STUPID *!
This is why 13 year olds shouldn't be allowed on the internet lol.
So we're back to 1starring terms now huh Snakeeyezz?? And we were doing SO good there for a while lol.
Listen I'm a pillowbiter, when you type * hilarious stuff like that* it makes me sad. Because I have a thing for trannies.If you're going to bag on Cyborg, bag on her looks, because she does look like a man you are right.
Well, I think this tells us everything we need to know about you flapjax lol.
I still say he err, she should fight Aoki. If it stays up top, she'll dominate, but if it goes to the ground, I say Aoki by armbar :)|||Not to sound like a weirdo or anything but do the women fighters ever weigh in bare * like the dudes? Or do they just not make weight and say "* it I'll just not make it!" I hope this is never the case with Cyborg because she honestly looks alike a man... and fights like one too. That is probably why she is so dominate! :)|||
Not to sound like a weirdo or anything but do the women fighters ever weigh in bare * like the dudes? Or do they just not make weight and say "* it I'll just not make it!" I hope this is never the case with Cyborg because she honestly looks alike a man... and fights like one too. That is probably why she is so dominate! :)
Gina Carano did that once..
Open Discussion... What's the best way to win an MMA fight ??????
Hey, Just thought i'd get a little debate going on here seeing as things have been very quiet around here lately..
So the question is.... in your opinion. what is the best way to win an MMA fight?? is it by a bone crunching Submission? a brutal knockout? maybe a TKO, or even a hard fought decision??
List whatever way you think is the best, along with your reasons...
I'll start off... In my opinion, the submission for me is the ultimate way for finishing a fight.. there's just something about making your opponent quit. that to me outweigh's any knockout, no matter how brutal.
A knockout can be fluked, or lucky sometimes... but when have you ever heard of someone fluking a submission, or luckily pulling one off? now im not putting knockout's down or strikers down at all, it requires tremoundous skill and talent to become a real top level striker, and some of my favourite fighters are top level strikers, but there is just something very special for me in seeing a submission executed in a manner that results in the opponent taping out, and basically giving up. it for me is a thing of beauty...and for those that dont tap out, a short nap or trip to the A and E department soon follows.
One of my favourite submissions of recent times was the triangle that Damien Maia used to defeat Chael Sonnen.. a beautiful trip off the cage resulting in a seamless transition into a triangle choke that sonnen could do nothing about, and was helpless to stop. it was the only way Maia was going to win the fight, and boy did he pull it off.
Please feel free to discuss and give your opinion on what you feel the best way to finish a fight is..|||what i don't like to see is when one fighter is whoopin on the other, im talkin brutally. Then all of a sudden the guy gets a lucky clean shot in, or lands in a great position and subs the guy.. :)
so yea, alot of ppl like it, but i don't like come from behind instant wins. Subs are cool andshow alot of skill. but sometimes in a fight where the guy is gettin whooped, its like a cowards way out, just to end the fight by winning the last 3 seconds.. you're tryin to pound a guy (no homo) just throwin bombs like a man, and all he's doin is squirming and trying to grab your legs and arms...
like this dude against the IE King Bobby Green
LET THE DEBATE BEGIN|||"What's the best way to win an MMA fight"
Punch your opponent before they punch you.|||the best way to win in mma is a flying armbar nuf said|||
Flying triangle beats flying arm bar any day!
Has to be choking someone unconcious. Yes, I'm sadistic like that.|||
true how bout flying anything|||Soccer kick to the face!|||
LOL. Most people are going to say 'Mir Vs Lesnar 1' here lol. I wouldn't agree, but thats one alot of people would throw out there.
To me, it depends on the fighter. Take the Machida Vs Evans fight. That ending was AWESOME because we have seen Rashad not only K.O. people before himself, but he K.O.'d the biggest fish out there in Chuck Liddell, so needless to say, he's a striker. So seeing Machida just KILL him with a K.O. was awesome.
The Liddell-Evans fight is another one BTW. Just seeing the K.O. artist get some of his own medecine makes it that much more awesome imo.
Another example I could give in the submission world would be: if I were to see a guy sub Royce Gracie. That would be impressive, or someone K.O. Anderson Silva.
To me, thats the coolest way to see fights end. For me it all boils down to who it happens to.|||
I will second this :)|||GOGOPLATA!
reason - its flashy looks cool, its a hard one to pull of that shows hours of training and you do it of your back (unless your aoki) so its like 'ha i got you down', 'ha i taped u out!'
|||Someone pulled a mounted gogo on me the other night haha. I like pulling off a perfect armbar from guard though...
So the question is.... in your opinion. what is the best way to win an MMA fight?? is it by a bone crunching Submission? a brutal knockout? maybe a TKO, or even a hard fought decision??
List whatever way you think is the best, along with your reasons...
I'll start off... In my opinion, the submission for me is the ultimate way for finishing a fight.. there's just something about making your opponent quit. that to me outweigh's any knockout, no matter how brutal.
A knockout can be fluked, or lucky sometimes... but when have you ever heard of someone fluking a submission, or luckily pulling one off? now im not putting knockout's down or strikers down at all, it requires tremoundous skill and talent to become a real top level striker, and some of my favourite fighters are top level strikers, but there is just something very special for me in seeing a submission executed in a manner that results in the opponent taping out, and basically giving up. it for me is a thing of beauty...and for those that dont tap out, a short nap or trip to the A and E department soon follows.
One of my favourite submissions of recent times was the triangle that Damien Maia used to defeat Chael Sonnen.. a beautiful trip off the cage resulting in a seamless transition into a triangle choke that sonnen could do nothing about, and was helpless to stop. it was the only way Maia was going to win the fight, and boy did he pull it off.
Please feel free to discuss and give your opinion on what you feel the best way to finish a fight is..|||what i don't like to see is when one fighter is whoopin on the other, im talkin brutally. Then all of a sudden the guy gets a lucky clean shot in, or lands in a great position and subs the guy.. :)
so yea, alot of ppl like it, but i don't like come from behind instant wins. Subs are cool andshow alot of skill. but sometimes in a fight where the guy is gettin whooped, its like a cowards way out, just to end the fight by winning the last 3 seconds.. you're tryin to pound a guy (no homo) just throwin bombs like a man, and all he's doin is squirming and trying to grab your legs and arms...
like this dude against the IE King Bobby Green
LET THE DEBATE BEGIN|||"What's the best way to win an MMA fight"
Punch your opponent before they punch you.|||the best way to win in mma is a flying armbar nuf said|||
the best way to win in mma is a flying armbar nuf said
Flying triangle beats flying arm bar any day!
Has to be choking someone unconcious. Yes, I'm sadistic like that.|||
the best way to win in mma is a flying armbar nuf said
Flying triangle beats flying arm bar any day!
Has to be choking someone unconcious. Yes, I'm sadistic like that.
true how bout flying anything|||Soccer kick to the face!|||
Hey, Just thought i'd get a little debate going on here seeing as things have been very quiet around here lately..
So the question is.... in your opinion. what is the best way to win an MMA fight?? is it by a bone crunching Submission? a brutal knockout? maybe a TKO, or even a hard fought decision??
List whatever way you think is the best, along with your reasons...
I'll start off... In my opinion, the submission for me is the ultimate way for finishing a fight.. there's just something about making your opponent quit. that to me outweigh's any knockout, no matter how brutal.
A knockout can be fluked, or lucky sometimes... but when have you ever heard of someone fluking a submission, or luckily pulling one off? now im not putting knockout's down or strikers down at all, it requires tremoundous skill and talent to become a real top level striker, and some of my favourite fighters are top level strikers, but there is just something very special for me in seeing a submission executed in a manner that results in the opponent taping out, and basically giving up. it for me is a thing of beauty...and for those that dont tap out, a short nap or trip to the A and E department soon follows.
One of my favourite submissions of recent times was the triangle that Damien Maia used to defeat Chael Sonnen.. a beautiful trip off the cage resulting in a seamless transition into a triangle choke that sonnen could do nothing about, and was helpless to stop. it was the only way Maia was going to win the fight, and boy did he pull it off.
Please feel free to discuss and give your opinion on what you feel the best way to finish a fight is..
LOL. Most people are going to say 'Mir Vs Lesnar 1' here lol. I wouldn't agree, but thats one alot of people would throw out there.
To me, it depends on the fighter. Take the Machida Vs Evans fight. That ending was AWESOME because we have seen Rashad not only K.O. people before himself, but he K.O.'d the biggest fish out there in Chuck Liddell, so needless to say, he's a striker. So seeing Machida just KILL him with a K.O. was awesome.
The Liddell-Evans fight is another one BTW. Just seeing the K.O. artist get some of his own medecine makes it that much more awesome imo.
Another example I could give in the submission world would be: if I were to see a guy sub Royce Gracie. That would be impressive, or someone K.O. Anderson Silva.
To me, thats the coolest way to see fights end. For me it all boils down to who it happens to.|||
Soccer kick to the face!
I will second this :)|||GOGOPLATA!
reason - its flashy looks cool, its a hard one to pull of that shows hours of training and you do it of your back (unless your aoki) so its like 'ha i got you down', 'ha i taped u out!'
|||Someone pulled a mounted gogo on me the other night haha. I like pulling off a perfect armbar from guard though...
Overeem "Brock is bigger"
Thought this was kinda funny... what is Overeem doing talking to White though - don't go ducking Fedor and head to the UFC 'REEM!!|||Yeah thats a old clip from UFC94 I think.
Back then I was quite excited with him being there, but I think anyone realizes that Overeem probably will never be in the UFC. I like the guy alot but I dont really think his mind is set to be competitive.|||Really? Oh my bad, it was in this week's uploads on youtube - thought it was from 111.|||
Really? Oh my bad, it was in this week's uploads on youtube - thought it was from 111.
Brock is definitely bigger though. Overeem has devolved back to Supereem and it very much disappoints me :)|||
Really? Oh my bad, it was in this week's uploads on youtube - thought it was from 111.
Brock is definitely bigger though. Overeem has devolved back to Supereem and it very much disappoints me :)
lol, yeah what was the next step of evolution? Apocalyptoreem?
anybody streamin ufc 115
post here if so would be greatly appreciated..|||bout to start in an hour so decided to bump|||sent you a PM|||Change topic to UFC 115 Discussion 
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I donated 10$ to MMA-TV and got acces to a private stream now, quality is not great but hey I like.|||I've just got a stream (For now). It's not bad. Tuned in halfway through round 2 of this (Evan Dunham - Tyson Griffin) fight. Dunham seems to be winning but missed round one so not really sure. Missed the result whilst I temporarily lost the stream.
Ready for CroCop v Barry and Chuck v Franklin.
EDIT: Lost the stream but got it back! :)|||Could I also get a link? If possible.|||I'm watching on ESPN. The whole Dunham - Griffin fight was exchange of punches where Dunham did better, Dunham ducks under punches and shoots, takes Griffins back and couldn't finish him. Pretty good fight though.|||haha i can watch it for free at ufclive com because i changed my ip to a german one cuz its free for german fans :) :) dunno why|||I saw rounds 2 and 3 and I saw Dunham take Griffin's back in both rounds. Yeah he didn't finish him but how that was a split decision is beyond me.|||Yeh, it was 30-27 in my book.
Condit fails at Judo.|||Wow....|||Might as well have let it go. Ref could've stopped it earlier, why stop it 10 seconds from the end? Condit could have got, what, 2 or 3 punches in... Would've been a draw or a decision win for MacDonald.|||Yeah Id rather seen that one go to decision lol.|||That one was a just stoppage though. He wasn't intelligently defending himself and it's that sort of stuff that can cause a serious injury. All he was doing was waving his arm.|||True, could get nasty.. but I guess I wanted to see who would have taken it if it went to the judges.
Lets see how Yvel will do this time.
.I donated 10$ to MMA-TV and got acces to a private stream now, quality is not great but hey I like.
|||I've just got a stream (For now). It's not bad. Tuned in halfway through round 2 of this (Evan Dunham - Tyson Griffin) fight. Dunham seems to be winning but missed round one so not really sure. Missed the result whilst I temporarily lost the stream.Ready for CroCop v Barry and Chuck v Franklin.
EDIT: Lost the stream but got it back! :)|||Could I also get a link? If possible.|||I'm watching on ESPN. The whole Dunham - Griffin fight was exchange of punches where Dunham did better, Dunham ducks under punches and shoots, takes Griffins back and couldn't finish him. Pretty good fight though.|||haha i can watch it for free at ufclive com because i changed my ip to a german one cuz its free for german fans :) :) dunno why|||I saw rounds 2 and 3 and I saw Dunham take Griffin's back in both rounds. Yeah he didn't finish him but how that was a split decision is beyond me.|||Yeh, it was 30-27 in my book.
Condit fails at Judo.|||Wow....|||Might as well have let it go. Ref could've stopped it earlier, why stop it 10 seconds from the end? Condit could have got, what, 2 or 3 punches in... Would've been a draw or a decision win for MacDonald.|||Yeah Id rather seen that one go to decision lol.|||That one was a just stoppage though. He wasn't intelligently defending himself and it's that sort of stuff that can cause a serious injury. All he was doing was waving his arm.|||True, could get nasty.. but I guess I wanted to see who would have taken it if it went to the judges.
Lets see how Yvel will do this time.
UFC Undisputed 2010: Brock Lesnar vs. Shane Carwin
i played using brock lesnar and chose shane carwin as my opponent...
look what happens next!!!
|||no chance to do it.. brock got ktfo in 3 seconds of the first round! :)
look what happens next!!!
|||no chance to do it.. brock got ktfo in 3 seconds of the first round! :)
Ultimate Fighting Islamists & Israel-Haters?
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/15237/ultimate-fighting-islamists-abu-dhabi-buys-10-of-ufc/
On a side note, why do you spend so much damn time trying to find articles that are negative about the UFC? What is your deal here?|||Copy of my my post on another board about this issue...
Does the author of the article use gasoline? There are many countries with questionable ethics and morality that have their financial fingers into our everyday lives.
It's the case with gasoline, agribusiness corporations, and here in MMA. Unfortunately, this is the down side to living in a capitalist country whose business efforts expand across the globe.
Fortunately as consumers we have the ability to financially support or avoid businesses that do not meet our ethical standards. That being said, I wouldn't condemn a UFC fan or a woman with diamond earrings as much as I would condemn any guy who drives a car on the freeway.|||Nice find TS, Debbie tells it like it is. :)|||
Cause there the only company making the news right now.|||i dont really care to be honest...... when they start puting untrained jewish people into the octagon against BJ i can see something wrong but at the moment there just trying to make cash like everyone else.......
and if thats sounds retarded i read like 6 lines of the artical (up to the point where it says the thing about japan) cause im sleepy :)|||i think Debbie doesnt like Arabs to much, maybe she got heartbroken by one|||
Or the fact that she's a Jew and fears for her life.
|||^They own 10% dude. Not the whole damn company. 10% isn't enough imo to influence much.
By Debbie Schlussel
Longtime readers know that I like boxing, fights, and that one of my guilty pleasures is watching a good martial arts movie. Sometimes, since I can’t do that stuff to get out my own stress, I like watching those who do. It’s a vicarious thing for the non-violent and physically tiny and powerless (i.e., me).
ufc
Look For a Burqa to Veil Islamic Gulf-State Owned UFC
So, it really bugs me that even something as viscerally American as UFC–the Ultimate Fighting Championship–is now 10% owned by an anti-Semitic Gulf state, which has a policy of travel apartheid and won’t let Jewish Israelis into its borders. Yup, the UFC is now 10% owned by the sons of the late Sheikh Zayed Al-Nahyan, whose Zayed Center funded anti-Semitic, Holocaust-denying, anti-Israel, and 9/11 Truther speakers, authors, and books.
These Islamofascists are buying EVERYTHING. Like I always say, remember the good old days . . . when the Japanese owned everything in America?
Flash Entertainment, an event management company owned by the Abu Dhabi government, bought a 10 percent stake in Zuffa LLC, owners of the Ultimate Fighting Championship and World Extreme Cagefighting as the sport grows in popularity.
Flash shares “our vision, passion, and enthusiasm for the UFC,” said Lorenzo J. Fertitta, UFC Chairman, in the PRNewswire statement today. “We are confident that this partnership will accelerate the worldwide growth of the UFC.”
Hmm . . . does UFC have a “vision, passion, and enthusiasm” for Judenrein like Abu Dhabi does?
Abu Dhabi, capital of the United Arab Emirates which is home to about 8 percent of the world’s oil supply, has embarked on an expansion and modernization plan as it looks to diversify away from its crude-driven economy. The government’s 2030 plan, devised in 2007, foresees the population growing to as much as 5 million from an estimated 1.6 million in 2008. The emirate hosted its first Formula One race in November. It is also building a branch of Paris’ Sorbonne University and Louvre and Guggenheim museums.
Uh, you can’t “modernize” if you are obsessed with ancient, backwoods Middle Eastern anti-Semitism, as UAE and Abu Dhabi are. You can have all the fancy museums in the world, but if you don’t get rid of rabid anti-Semitism, you’re nothing more than savages with money and nice cars, which is essentially what the Gulf states are.
Wrestling is not new to the emirate. The Abu Dhabi Combat Club was created in 1998 by Sheikh Tahnoon Bin Zayed Al Nahyan, the son of the U.A.E.’s founder. The club spawned the ADCC Submission Wrestling World Championship, an international martial arts event.
More:
Ossama Khoreibi, Chairman of Flash Entertainment, commented, “Since our very first meeting, we were impressed by Lorenzo, Frank and Dana’s commitment to growing UFC as a global sport.” He continued, “Flash is equally committed to building Abu Dhabi’s profile as an international entertainment destination, and this partnership provides further proof of our company’s bold ambitions. We look forward to an exciting future ahead, working closely with our UFC partners to activate this sport in the UAE, the region and across the world.”
The Raine Group acted as financial advisor to Flash Entertainment. Goldman Sachs served as UFC’s financial advisor.
Um, FYI, Mr. Khoreibi, “global” means every country in the world, including Israel. There are many top Israeli martial arts champs. What happens when one of them earns the right to compete in the UAE, and Abu Dhabi won’t grant him a visa? Will UFC say nothing the way the entire international tennis community (except Andy Roddick) says nothing when Israeli tennis players are excluded?
It’s gonna happen. Bet on it.
On a side note, why do you spend so much damn time trying to find articles that are negative about the UFC? What is your deal here?|||Copy of my my post on another board about this issue...
Does the author of the article use gasoline? There are many countries with questionable ethics and morality that have their financial fingers into our everyday lives.
It's the case with gasoline, agribusiness corporations, and here in MMA. Unfortunately, this is the down side to living in a capitalist country whose business efforts expand across the globe.
Fortunately as consumers we have the ability to financially support or avoid businesses that do not meet our ethical standards. That being said, I wouldn't condemn a UFC fan or a woman with diamond earrings as much as I would condemn any guy who drives a car on the freeway.|||Nice find TS, Debbie tells it like it is. :)|||
^They own 10% dude. Not the whole damn company. 10% isn't enough imo to influence much.
On a side note, why do you spend so much damn time trying to find articles that are negative about the UFC? What is your deal here?
Cause there the only company making the news right now.|||i dont really care to be honest...... when they start puting untrained jewish people into the octagon against BJ i can see something wrong but at the moment there just trying to make cash like everyone else.......
and if thats sounds retarded i read like 6 lines of the artical (up to the point where it says the thing about japan) cause im sleepy :)|||i think Debbie doesnt like Arabs to much, maybe she got heartbroken by one|||
i think Debbie doesnt like Arabs to much, maybe she got heartbroken by one
Or the fact that she's a Jew and fears for her life.
UFC 109... take your picks
Randy Couture vs Mark Coleman
Nate Marquardt vs Chael Sonnen
Mike Swick vs Paulo Thiago
Demian Maia vs Dan Miller
Matt Serra vs Fank Trigg
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My Picks
Couture
Marquardt
Swick
Maia
Serra|||
Coleman
Marquardt
Paulo Thiago
Maia
Serra|||I took:
Trigg - Wrong
Maia - Right
Thiago - Right
Marquardt - Sooo Dissapointed :)
Couture Coleman hasn't happened yet but ill take Couture|||I had..
Serra- Right
Maia- Right
Thiago- Right
Sonnen- Right
Coleman- Wrong
Anyone know what Tito yelled out to Coleman after the fight. I really hate Tito, he is an * only yells * out to the old fighters... Guess he is trying to save his career since he can't beat anyone else! :)
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I didn't hear what he said, nor do I care. I hate Tito. Liddell will whip his a** don't worry.|||I love how Paulo Thiago wanted to be in UFC undisputed so badly i would love to have his gamer tag, lol.|||I still don't understand what Frank Trigg is doing in this game. He's not a good fighter, he's not an exciting fighter, he fights for the UFC so he's not even able to fight any of EA MMA's roster. Really doesn't make any sense.|||All in all it was a good card...though I didn't post my picks here they were Trigg, Thiago, Maia, Marquardt and Coleman. Nevertheless it was a good card in my opinion.
All in all I was very impressed with Thiago, Maia and Couture but none more than I was with Chael Sonnen. He completely dominated Marquardt for 14 minutes of this fight, and did not cave under pressure, for examplewhen Marquardt was going for the choke near the end. I feel he brutalized Marquardt with his wresting. Marquardt is a very strong guy but Sonnen just dominated and suffocated him.|||
thats what im saying he sucks twinkle toes is garbage|||I thought sonnen was really impressive. He deserves a title shot after that performance, even if he is a piece of crap, and has the personality of a goldfish. I think marquardt vs chris leben would be a good fight, or maybe even okami.|||Dude, what the hell was up with the Rolles fight? That * was depressing to watch.|||
The worst gracie yet......|||
I didn't see the fight yet but let's just put that last statement into perspective. The worst Gracie yet is a helluva lot better then the best of a lot of different families. I'll have to try and find the video to it online somewhere.|||
Thats why.....thanks sheps for writing this before i did.|||and hearing Joe says "Rolles father is the man, a legend" is Royce his father? Rolles is Renzo's cousin. The guy gassed by throwing those sloppy sloppy right hands, falling into takedowns... etc.... Sonnen took some punishment with a great result at the end. What I don't get about the main event was why Coleman wanted to stand with Randy. His bread and butter has always been takedowns and GnP. It took him too long to try to adapt his style and get with someone else. I mean Hammer House is kind of archaic.
Nate Marquardt vs Chael Sonnen
Mike Swick vs Paulo Thiago
Demian Maia vs Dan Miller
Matt Serra vs Fank Trigg
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My Picks
Couture
Marquardt
Swick
Maia
Serra|||
Randy Couture vs Mark Coleman
Nate Marquardt vs Chael Sonnen
Mike Swick vs Paulo Thiago
Demian Maia vs Dan Miller
Matt Serra vs Fank Trigg
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My Picks
Couture
Marquardt
Swick
Maia
Serra
Coleman
Marquardt
Paulo Thiago
Maia
Serra|||I took:
Trigg - Wrong
Maia - Right
Thiago - Right
Marquardt - Sooo Dissapointed :)
Couture Coleman hasn't happened yet but ill take Couture|||I had..
Serra- Right
Maia- Right
Thiago- Right
Sonnen- Right
Coleman- Wrong
Anyone know what Tito yelled out to Coleman after the fight. I really hate Tito, he is an * only yells * out to the old fighters... Guess he is trying to save his career since he can't beat anyone else! :)
|||
I had..
Serra- Right
Maia- Right
Thiago- Right
Sonnen- Right
Coleman- Wrong
Anyone know what Tito yelled out to Coleman after the fight. I really hate Tito, he is an * only yells * out to the old fighters... Guess he is trying to save his career since he can't beat anyone else! :)
I didn't hear what he said, nor do I care. I hate Tito. Liddell will whip his a** don't worry.|||I love how Paulo Thiago wanted to be in UFC undisputed so badly i would love to have his gamer tag, lol.|||I still don't understand what Frank Trigg is doing in this game. He's not a good fighter, he's not an exciting fighter, he fights for the UFC so he's not even able to fight any of EA MMA's roster. Really doesn't make any sense.|||All in all it was a good card...though I didn't post my picks here they were Trigg, Thiago, Maia, Marquardt and Coleman. Nevertheless it was a good card in my opinion.
All in all I was very impressed with Thiago, Maia and Couture but none more than I was with Chael Sonnen. He completely dominated Marquardt for 14 minutes of this fight, and did not cave under pressure, for examplewhen Marquardt was going for the choke near the end. I feel he brutalized Marquardt with his wresting. Marquardt is a very strong guy but Sonnen just dominated and suffocated him.|||
I still don't understand what Frank Trigg is doing in this game. He's not a good fighter, he's not an exciting fighter, he fights for the UFC so he's not even able to fight any of EA MMA's roster. Really doesn't make any sense.
thats what im saying he sucks twinkle toes is garbage|||I thought sonnen was really impressive. He deserves a title shot after that performance, even if he is a piece of crap, and has the personality of a goldfish. I think marquardt vs chris leben would be a good fight, or maybe even okami.|||Dude, what the hell was up with the Rolles fight? That * was depressing to watch.|||
Dude, what the hell was up with the Rolles fight? That * was depressing to watch.
The worst gracie yet......|||
Dude, what the hell was up with the Rolles fight? That * was depressing to watch.
The worst gracie yet......
I didn't see the fight yet but let's just put that last statement into perspective. The worst Gracie yet is a helluva lot better then the best of a lot of different families. I'll have to try and find the video to it online somewhere.|||
Rolles Gracie, the guy that just fought at UFC 109 and is already being dubbed as having the worst performance in UFC history.
His striking was terrible and his ground game looked amateur. It could very well be the case that Rashad was given a black belt by this guy to advertise his school.
Thats why.....thanks sheps for writing this before i did.|||and hearing Joe says "Rolles father is the man, a legend" is Royce his father? Rolles is Renzo's cousin. The guy gassed by throwing those sloppy sloppy right hands, falling into takedowns... etc.... Sonnen took some punishment with a great result at the end. What I don't get about the main event was why Coleman wanted to stand with Randy. His bread and butter has always been takedowns and GnP. It took him too long to try to adapt his style and get with someone else. I mean Hammer House is kind of archaic.
UFC Banned from German TV
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Update-UFC-Banned-from-German-TV-23317
The Ultimate Fighting Championship has been banned from German television. The Bavarian state office for new media (BLM) revoked the promotion’s broadcast clearance on Thursday for programming including “The Ultimate Fighter,” “UFC Unleashed” and “UFC Fight Night,” which had been televised on German sports television channel DSF since March 2009.
“The committee deems that television formats characterized by the extend of violence shown to be unacceptable,“ read a statement from the BLM. The BLM also described the programming as a “breach of taboos like punching a downed opponent,” which is illegal under article 111a of the Bavarian constitution. The paragraph deals with the glorification of violence in the media.
The BLM decision did not state an exact date when the UFC programming would no longer be allowed to air.
DSF Chief Executive Officer Zeljko Karajica was unable to assess the full consequences the decision will have for the sports channel.
“We have taken note of today’s decision by the BLM,” Karajica told Sherdog.com. “However, we cannot give a final comment as we have to examine what kind of consequences it will have internally, especially with regard to the existing contractual relationship with the UFC.”
The UFC and DSF reached an agreement in February 2009 to air around 500 hours of UFC programming over the next three years. The network has aired the promotion’s pay-per-view events starting with UFC 96, mostly on a one-week delay. While the ratings have been solid for the nightly broadcasts, the channel has complained about a lack of advertising customers interested in the product.
Thursday’s ban is not going to be in immediate effect, as the channel plans to run a delayed broadcast of “UFC Live: Vera vs. Jones” on Monday.
Marshall Zelaznik, UFC UK president and managing director of international development, took the same line as Karajica in a press release issued on Friday.
“We have been monitoring this development together with our partner DSF for a couple of weeks,” said the release. “Although we are not surprised by the decision, we consider it unusual to take action without listening to the concerning parties first.”
Zelaznik additionally stated that they are in the process of arranging a hearing with the BLM.
“The Bavarian state office for new media has approved UFC programming on DSF twice on separate occasions in the past,” said Zelaznik. “That is why we deem the sudden ban unusual as the content of our programming has not changed. We have also had a commission for youth protection in the media review the situation and they deemed the broadcast legal if televised after 11 p.m.”
The UFC UK president also rejected the accusations that the company was glorifying violence, especially by the fact that it is legal to punch a downed opponent. He requested the commission to “look at the sport as a whole” and criticized the decision-makers for “not taking the time to learn about the sport before rendering a decision.”
During additional correspondence with Sherdog.com on Friday, Zelaznik said the UFC is "still allowed to air on DSF and in fact is continuing to air until a final decision from BLM is rendered."
A silver lining on the horizon for the promotion, which has been under heavy fire from both media and politicians, is a pledge of allegiance from local co-promoter and concert mogul Marek Lieberberg, who helped host the U.S.-based organization’s debut event, UFC 99, in Cologne last June. The BLM’s decision “will not change a thing about our excellent cooperation with the UFC,” the 63-year-old wrote to Sherdog.com in an e-mail.
UFC 99, which included a 195-pound catch-weight bout between Wanderlei Silva and Rich Franklin, was heavily criticized by local officials and the press. To quell disapproval, the promotion said that the venue agreed to a stipulation where patrons had to be over 18 years of age to attend the event.
Update: This article was updated with additional comments from Zelaznik at 6:55 p.m. ET. Zelaznik also clarified that the 18-and-over UFC 99 attendance stipulation was added by the venue and imposed on the promotion.|||:O wow that really sucks what about live events?|||didnt read it all but is Strikeforce still okay?|||
Most important question^^^.|||they dont have strikeforce in germany just ufc|||How could you ban the UFC after Wandy vs Franklin?? that match was epic as hell!|||It was banned cause they had no German fighters, and Dana crapped on the german fighters.
The Ultimate Fighting Championship has been banned from German television. The Bavarian state office for new media (BLM) revoked the promotion’s broadcast clearance on Thursday for programming including “The Ultimate Fighter,” “UFC Unleashed” and “UFC Fight Night,” which had been televised on German sports television channel DSF since March 2009.
“The committee deems that television formats characterized by the extend of violence shown to be unacceptable,“ read a statement from the BLM. The BLM also described the programming as a “breach of taboos like punching a downed opponent,” which is illegal under article 111a of the Bavarian constitution. The paragraph deals with the glorification of violence in the media.
The BLM decision did not state an exact date when the UFC programming would no longer be allowed to air.
DSF Chief Executive Officer Zeljko Karajica was unable to assess the full consequences the decision will have for the sports channel.
“We have taken note of today’s decision by the BLM,” Karajica told Sherdog.com. “However, we cannot give a final comment as we have to examine what kind of consequences it will have internally, especially with regard to the existing contractual relationship with the UFC.”
The UFC and DSF reached an agreement in February 2009 to air around 500 hours of UFC programming over the next three years. The network has aired the promotion’s pay-per-view events starting with UFC 96, mostly on a one-week delay. While the ratings have been solid for the nightly broadcasts, the channel has complained about a lack of advertising customers interested in the product.
Thursday’s ban is not going to be in immediate effect, as the channel plans to run a delayed broadcast of “UFC Live: Vera vs. Jones” on Monday.
Marshall Zelaznik, UFC UK president and managing director of international development, took the same line as Karajica in a press release issued on Friday.
“We have been monitoring this development together with our partner DSF for a couple of weeks,” said the release. “Although we are not surprised by the decision, we consider it unusual to take action without listening to the concerning parties first.”
Zelaznik additionally stated that they are in the process of arranging a hearing with the BLM.
“The Bavarian state office for new media has approved UFC programming on DSF twice on separate occasions in the past,” said Zelaznik. “That is why we deem the sudden ban unusual as the content of our programming has not changed. We have also had a commission for youth protection in the media review the situation and they deemed the broadcast legal if televised after 11 p.m.”
The UFC UK president also rejected the accusations that the company was glorifying violence, especially by the fact that it is legal to punch a downed opponent. He requested the commission to “look at the sport as a whole” and criticized the decision-makers for “not taking the time to learn about the sport before rendering a decision.”
During additional correspondence with Sherdog.com on Friday, Zelaznik said the UFC is "still allowed to air on DSF and in fact is continuing to air until a final decision from BLM is rendered."
A silver lining on the horizon for the promotion, which has been under heavy fire from both media and politicians, is a pledge of allegiance from local co-promoter and concert mogul Marek Lieberberg, who helped host the U.S.-based organization’s debut event, UFC 99, in Cologne last June. The BLM’s decision “will not change a thing about our excellent cooperation with the UFC,” the 63-year-old wrote to Sherdog.com in an e-mail.
UFC 99, which included a 195-pound catch-weight bout between Wanderlei Silva and Rich Franklin, was heavily criticized by local officials and the press. To quell disapproval, the promotion said that the venue agreed to a stipulation where patrons had to be over 18 years of age to attend the event.
Update: This article was updated with additional comments from Zelaznik at 6:55 p.m. ET. Zelaznik also clarified that the 18-and-over UFC 99 attendance stipulation was added by the venue and imposed on the promotion.|||:O wow that really sucks what about live events?|||didnt read it all but is Strikeforce still okay?|||
didnt read it all but is Strikeforce still okay?
Most important question^^^.|||they dont have strikeforce in germany just ufc|||How could you ban the UFC after Wandy vs Franklin?? that match was epic as hell!|||It was banned cause they had no German fighters, and Dana crapped on the german fighters.
brawl
that was crazy|||what the *.|||what happened there?
|||How did Mayhem get in the ring?
Was Nick Diaz in there?|||
Yeah Diaz was there.
I saw mayhem talking about a rematch.
What the * this ruined it even more for me. * *.|||Cesar Gracie fight team is a * disgrace.|||what happened exactly? was looking away right when it started|||
I saw Mayhem talking to Shields next thing I see is all those Caesar Gracie shirts mobbing Mayhem.
* retards man, seriously.|||Mayhem said lets make a rematch buddy, cesar gracie fight team jumped him|||darn it after the fight i turned on hbo for the boxing ill look it up on youtube later when its up in like an hour|||That was EPIC.|||Nick Diaz is cancer to this sport, * *.
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if by nick diaz you mean Jason Miller.. then yes.. agreed.|||it was melendez he pushed mayhem|||definitely not good for the sport that was pretty disgusting, CBS must be happy about that one - Dana White, is gonna have a field day
say bye bye to Mayhem
|||How did Mayhem get in the ring?
Was Nick Diaz in there?|||
How did Mayhem get in the ring?
Was Nick Diaz in there?
Yeah Diaz was there.
I saw mayhem talking about a rematch.
What the * this ruined it even more for me. * *.|||Cesar Gracie fight team is a * disgrace.|||what happened exactly? was looking away right when it started|||
what happened exactly? was looking away right when it started
I saw Mayhem talking to Shields next thing I see is all those Caesar Gracie shirts mobbing Mayhem.
* retards man, seriously.|||Mayhem said lets make a rematch buddy, cesar gracie fight team jumped him|||darn it after the fight i turned on hbo for the boxing ill look it up on youtube later when its up in like an hour|||That was EPIC.|||Nick Diaz is cancer to this sport, * *.
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Nick Diaz is cancer to this sport, * *.
if by nick diaz you mean Jason Miller.. then yes.. agreed.|||it was melendez he pushed mayhem|||definitely not good for the sport that was pretty disgusting, CBS must be happy about that one - Dana White, is gonna have a field day
say bye bye to Mayhem
UFC books Rogers Centre
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2010/5/22/1483443/ufc-books-rogers-centre-for#comments
There goes Pride's record.
There goes Pride's record.
TUF 12 Coaching is probably the best in Ultimate Fighter History
Team GSP Coaches
Firas Zahabi
John Danahar
Phil Nurse
Shawn Williams
Jean-Charles Skarbowsky
Team Koscheck Coaches
Javier Mendez
Bob Cook
Dave Camarillo
Daniel Cormier
Teddy Lucio
If the contestants aren't idiots there gonna learn a lot.
Firas Zahabi
John Danahar
Phil Nurse
Shawn Williams
Jean-Charles Skarbowsky
Team Koscheck Coaches
Javier Mendez
Bob Cook
Dave Camarillo
Daniel Cormier
Teddy Lucio
If the contestants aren't idiots there gonna learn a lot.
Brock V.S. Carwin, who wins and how?(Specifics)
Note to everybody: STOP TALKING ABOUT FEDOR LOSING! We have a HELL of a hw match-up tonight!
+Lesnar shoots on Carwin with a TD(or gets him to the ground via right hand) in the first round. He might struggle for it, but he is getting it. From here Lesnar works his GnP enough to win the round, but not enough to get the TKO.
+Carwin comes out in the second round, surviving the first, and KO's/TKO's Lesnar in the first minute(2nd rnd). Probobly with a right hook.|||I've never been torn between two fighters since Shogun vs Machida 1.
This is got all the makings of an explosive match.I can't wait for this one
I think Brock will win though via gnp|||2nd round tko Brock Lesnar. GNP|||brock gets a fast takedown but carwin manages to get back up know they both stand carwin lands so nice jabs brock
gets rock with a nice jab brock falls carwins hammering away carwin via tko
brock has no chin i saw what mir did to him he saw he was lossing so he did the takedown mir landed a knee a a hook brock was rocked|||Carwin was in the latest Inside MMA and they said he has good BJJ skills. I would like to see how they hande things on the ground. But im afraid there´s going to be a quick KO from either one of them.
On a side note its nice to watch the fight on TV rather than watching a poor quality stream.|||
Got that in the back of my mind too. If Lesnar gets the TD and tightens everything up like he did against Mir in their second fight, it could be a slow but decisive TKO. But I really, REALLY doubt Lesnar can come even close to controllin Carwin in even remotely in the same fashion as he did Mir.
On the other hand, Carwin can come out and land a bomb, or ko Lesnar from the clinch right in the beginning.
This fight has an x-factor to on a massive scale.
But I'm sticking to my original prediction. Lesnar steals the 1st round and busts Carwin up w/GnP. Carwin wins the fight with a KO within the first minute of round 2.
|||Carwins wrestling coach said that Lesnar can take him (Ron Waterman) down at will. So I think Lesnar can take this to the ground any minute in the fight. Carwin literally has a punchers chance in this fight I think. However it is still a fight and I am still going with Carwin, I dont think he can stop Lesnar taking him down though.|||Carwin by KO.|||
I don't know. I kind of feel the same way, but then I wonder about the Lesnar/Couture match. Given Couture's age, ring rust and size in that fight... and STILL be able to control Brock pretty damn well, I'm really wondering how well Shane's TDD will be against Lesnar. We'll see I guess.|||
The key for Carwin in this fight imo is the clinch against the cage like he used against Mir, Lesnar was controlled easily by a much smaller Couture against the cage, the difference is Carwin has got one punch KO power from any position.
EDIT.. Also everyone seems to be forgetting Lesnar is coming back from a "life threatening illness" and a period of inactivity.|||Brock is bigger and a better caliber of wrestler.
Carwin is clearly the better striker.
I think Brock will go for the takedown early. They'll end up in the clinch by the cage. Carwin will work Brock as he did Mir and it will eventually go to the ground. The ref will stop it as Brock won't be defending himself intelligently.|||But Lesnar brought in Couture. After the Mir fight I think it is pretty obvious what they worked on.|||Man i realy dunno this could be a draw too i just can wait but brock has a better chance so i go with brock via tko or sub 3rd Round|||
+Lesnar shoots on Carwin with a TD(or gets him to the ground via right hand) in the first round. He might struggle for it, but he is getting it. From here Lesnar works his GnP enough to win the round, but not enough to get the TKO.
+Carwin comes out in the second round, surviving the first, and KO's/TKO's Lesnar in the first minute(2nd rnd). Probobly with a right hook.|||I've never been torn between two fighters since Shogun vs Machida 1.
This is got all the makings of an explosive match.I can't wait for this one
I think Brock will win though via gnp|||2nd round tko Brock Lesnar. GNP|||brock gets a fast takedown but carwin manages to get back up know they both stand carwin lands so nice jabs brock
gets rock with a nice jab brock falls carwins hammering away carwin via tko
brock has no chin i saw what mir did to him he saw he was lossing so he did the takedown mir landed a knee a a hook brock was rocked|||Carwin was in the latest Inside MMA and they said he has good BJJ skills. I would like to see how they hande things on the ground. But im afraid there´s going to be a quick KO from either one of them.
On a side note its nice to watch the fight on TV rather than watching a poor quality stream.
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Carwin was in the latest Inside MMA and they said he has good BJJ skills. I would like to see how they hande things on the ground. But im afraid there´s going to be a quick KO from either one of them.
On a side note its nice to watch the fight on TV rather than watching a poor quality stream.
Got that in the back of my mind too. If Lesnar gets the TD and tightens everything up like he did against Mir in their second fight, it could be a slow but decisive TKO. But I really, REALLY doubt Lesnar can come even close to controllin Carwin in even remotely in the same fashion as he did Mir.
On the other hand, Carwin can come out and land a bomb, or ko Lesnar from the clinch right in the beginning.
This fight has an x-factor to on a massive scale.
But I'm sticking to my original prediction. Lesnar steals the 1st round and busts Carwin up w/GnP. Carwin wins the fight with a KO within the first minute of round 2.
|||Carwins wrestling coach said that Lesnar can take him (Ron Waterman) down at will. So I think Lesnar can take this to the ground any minute in the fight. Carwin literally has a punchers chance in this fight I think. However it is still a fight and I am still going with Carwin, I dont think he can stop Lesnar taking him down though.|||Carwin by KO.|||
Carwins wrestling coach said that Lesnar can take him (Ron Waterman) down at will. So I think Lesnar can take this to the ground any minute in the fight. Carwin literally has a punchers chance in this fight I think. However it is still a fight and I am still going with Carwin, I dont think he can stop Lesnar taking him down though.
I don't know. I kind of feel the same way, but then I wonder about the Lesnar/Couture match. Given Couture's age, ring rust and size in that fight... and STILL be able to control Brock pretty damn well, I'm really wondering how well Shane's TDD will be against Lesnar. We'll see I guess.|||
Carwins wrestling coach said that Lesnar can take him (Ron Waterman) down at will. So I think Lesnar can take this to the ground any minute in the fight. Carwin literally has a punchers chance in this fight I think. However it is still a fight and I am still going with Carwin, I dont think he can stop Lesnar taking him down though.
I don't know. I kind of feel the same way, but then I wonder about the Lesnar/Couture match. Given Couture's age, ring rust and size in that find, I'm really wondering how well Shane's TDD will be against Lesnar. We'll see I guess.
The key for Carwin in this fight imo is the clinch against the cage like he used against Mir, Lesnar was controlled easily by a much smaller Couture against the cage, the difference is Carwin has got one punch KO power from any position.
EDIT.. Also everyone seems to be forgetting Lesnar is coming back from a "life threatening illness" and a period of inactivity.|||Brock is bigger and a better caliber of wrestler.
Carwin is clearly the better striker.
I think Brock will go for the takedown early. They'll end up in the clinch by the cage. Carwin will work Brock as he did Mir and it will eventually go to the ground. The ref will stop it as Brock won't be defending himself intelligently.|||But Lesnar brought in Couture. After the Mir fight I think it is pretty obvious what they worked on.|||Man i realy dunno this could be a draw too i just can wait but brock has a better chance so i go with brock via tko or sub 3rd Round|||
Never heard of punctuation marks huh?|||Only thing that scares me is that we dont know about carwin's stamina after rd1.
brock gets a fast takedown but carwin manages to get back up know they both stand carwin lands so nice jabs brock
gets rock with a nice jab brock falls carwins hammering away carwin via tko
brock has no chin i saw what mir did to him he saw he was lossing so he did the takedown mir landed a knee a a hook brock was rocked
Royce Gracie's frist opponent
This guy was Gracie's first opponent ever in the UFC.
Man UFC was cool back then, I wish it was still that way.
|||ufc were racists back then, they put a huge american "fighter" to beat up shorter and smaller fighter from another country which they hate. have you seen the fight between reza nasri and john johnstone in ufc 11? brian johnston vs reza nasri, johnston was 6'4 (194cm) and 222 lbs, while nasri was like 6'0 and 170 lbs|||
I celebrate your retardedness in its entirety.|||
good story (or interview, cant remember) on why he came out with his one glove & his mindset that night somewhere on the interwebz. Those early events were insane.
that was the whole pt of the early UFC matchmaking, to try & match style on style w/o regard to size... the ageless question of 'who would win?'.
it was discipline vs discipline to prove size did not matter, or that 'my style was better than yours' & like Xmas said, its exactly what the gracies wanted.
Man UFC was cool back then, I wish it was still that way.
|||ufc were racists back then, they put a huge american "fighter" to beat up shorter and smaller fighter from another country which they hate. have you seen the fight between reza nasri and john johnstone in ufc 11? brian johnston vs reza nasri, johnston was 6'4 (194cm) and 222 lbs, while nasri was like 6'0 and 170 lbs|||
ufc were racists back then, they put a huge american "fighter" to beat up shorter and smaller fighter from another country which they hate. have you seen the fight between reza nasri and john johnstone in ufc 11? brian johnston vs reza nasri, johnston was 6'4 (194cm) and 222 lbs, while nasri was like 6'0 and 170 lbs
I celebrate your retardedness in its entirety.|||
I've totally got to disagree with you on this one Christmas2009. I've actually wrote an article about the old UFC, and the misguided thought of it being a "David vs. Goliath" scenario. You know that the Gracie family, namely Rorion Gracie, was who created the UFC (Brazilians). It was Rorion's idea, he just got some money backing from Art Davie. The thing about them fighting big guys was just to prove that Gracie Jujitsu was truly the best. Basically, the old UFC's were pretty much a giant advertisement and commercial for Gracie Jujitsu, and it worked! Look at how many people paid big money to go down to Brazil and be trained, how many Gracie Jujitsu gyms have been opened in America. The Gracie's were great, good fighers, and they sold their system big time. But, that I know of, there was no racism involved. The fights were dominated by a small Brazilian man, but he was the favorite, not the underdog. It took America a long time to realize what was going on in there, at least 3 UFC's.|||^ that was 'one glove' right?
ufc were racists back then, they put a huge american "fighter" to beat up shorter and smaller fighter from another country which they hate. have you seen the fight between reza nasri and john johnstone in ufc 11? brian johnston vs reza nasri, johnston was 6'4 (194cm) and 222 lbs, while nasri was like 6'0 and 170 lbs
good story (or interview, cant remember) on why he came out with his one glove & his mindset that night somewhere on the interwebz. Those early events were insane.
ufc were racists back then, they put a huge american "fighter" to beat up shorter and smaller fighter from another country which they hate
that was the whole pt of the early UFC matchmaking, to try & match style on style w/o regard to size... the ageless question of 'who would win?'.
it was discipline vs discipline to prove size did not matter, or that 'my style was better than yours' & like Xmas said, its exactly what the gracies wanted.
OK WHEN IS EA GOING TO START TALKING ABOUT THE GAME !!!!!!!!!
We are all saying what should be in the game and what is currently going on in mma but when is EA actually going to give us some details about the game???????|||Not soon enough, right?! :)|||
Saturday there is supposed to be an announcement. At least thats what the EA MMA twitter post said. I think OG made a post about it.
http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/281048.page|||Indeed not soon enough :).
But I understand that there simply wont be so much information given during these phases of development. However I wish there would be actual fighter renders on the website, instead of the pictures we have right now.
That way we would actually get to see something :)|||I want to say "patience grasshopper" but that would be trite. :)
I have been in your shoes waiting for a new game and wanting to know anything about it. It sucks at first but then when things start to show up its always exciting.
The information flow has started and it will build. We are listening and we appreciate all of the comments and contributions that have been made to this point. We are also working hard to create stuff that will make the wait seem like it was worth it. I promise there is a lot more to come.|||I don't know but this forum has offered some of the best MMA ideas i've ever read..not so sure if most of these ideas would mean it can be implemented into a good thing in game but I am really feeling this community so it makes the waiting not so bad..
the next piece of news will be a interesting conversation point|||
i totally agree!!! this community is def great, and having the devs actually on here chatting with us and listening to everyones ideas is totally sick, thats how i KNOW this game is gonna blow undisputed away!!! i think the undisputed devs never joined the forums cuz they knew there was gonna be big backlash, so they felt the better thing to do would be to keep everyone in the dark and stay far, far away from the forums, until there's a ufc fight coming up so they can come on and remind us not to forget to play "ufc pick and win" lol|||Hey rahlie I agree with you 100% man and I hope they take some of my ideas|||Commitment develops quality|||Agreed Oilers.
We are all saying what should be in the game and what is currently going on in mma but when is EA actually going to give us some details about the game???????
Saturday there is supposed to be an announcement. At least thats what the EA MMA twitter post said. I think OG made a post about it.
http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/281048.page|||Indeed not soon enough :).
But I understand that there simply wont be so much information given during these phases of development. However I wish there would be actual fighter renders on the website, instead of the pictures we have right now.
That way we would actually get to see something :)|||I want to say "patience grasshopper" but that would be trite. :)
I have been in your shoes waiting for a new game and wanting to know anything about it. It sucks at first but then when things start to show up its always exciting.
The information flow has started and it will build. We are listening and we appreciate all of the comments and contributions that have been made to this point. We are also working hard to create stuff that will make the wait seem like it was worth it. I promise there is a lot more to come.|||I don't know but this forum has offered some of the best MMA ideas i've ever read..not so sure if most of these ideas would mean it can be implemented into a good thing in game but I am really feeling this community so it makes the waiting not so bad..
the next piece of news will be a interesting conversation point|||
I don't know but this forum has offered some of the best MMA ideas i've ever read..not so sure if most of these ideas would mean it can be implemented into a good thing in game but I am really feeling this community so it makes the waiting not so bad..
the next piece of news will be a interesting conversation point
i totally agree!!! this community is def great, and having the devs actually on here chatting with us and listening to everyones ideas is totally sick, thats how i KNOW this game is gonna blow undisputed away!!! i think the undisputed devs never joined the forums cuz they knew there was gonna be big backlash, so they felt the better thing to do would be to keep everyone in the dark and stay far, far away from the forums, until there's a ufc fight coming up so they can come on and remind us not to forget to play "ufc pick and win" lol|||Hey rahlie I agree with you 100% man and I hope they take some of my ideas|||Commitment develops quality|||Agreed Oilers.
Strikeforce's Dan Henderson: "Now There Is Another Option"
http://mmajunkie.com/news/17132/strikeforces-dan-henderson-now-there-is-another-option.mma
When rumblings began several months back that Dan Henderson (25-7) might be walking away from the UFC, many viewed the former PRIDE champ's negotiations with Strikeforce as mere posturing.
When Strikeforce announced on Monday that Henderson had officially signed on with the promotion, many began to wonder who might be next.
Today, Henderson told MMAjunkie.com Radio (www.mmajunkie.com/radio) that he wouldn't be surprised if more top-level fighters follow his example and explore options outside of the sport's biggest promotion.
"It's inevitable," Henderson said. "For a while, there wasn't any other options, and fighters were not really keen on that idea of not having a place to shop around. They weren't real happy with the UFC kind of having a monopoly on everything. It's their way or the highway, and now there is another option. That makes [fighters] feel a little more comfortable."
UFC president Dana White has repeatedly said Henderson's contract expectations were unrealistic during their recent negotiations. Henderson believes that to be untrue, and he said he was very happy with what Strikeforce was able to offer.
"I'm pretty happy with every aspect of [my Strikeforce contract]," Henderson said. "I'm excited to be able to fight on CBS – that seems like it would be a pretty cool deal – and to be able to bring new fans to the sport, which is what's going to happen with CBS."
The network-television deal Strikeforce has with CBS will undoubtedly expose Henderson to new fans. And Henderson believes he'll be able to do the same for Strikeforce as the organization centers on him as a focus of its U.S. marketing.
"I believe that was their objective by signing me," Henderson said. "They want to make sure that they use me as their marquee guy in the U.S.
"Fedor Emelianenko, as great as he is of a fighter, he's not that well-known in the U.S., and he doesn't speak English. It's a little tougher for them to send him out to different shows to help market Strikeforce."
Additionally, Henderson thinks Emelianenko would actually be an ideal opponent for him at some point during his new contract. But current middleweight champ Jake Shields and light heavyweight title holder Gegard Mousasi are also on his radar.
"There will be bouncing around, I'm sure, based on the fact that there's a lot of guys that are interesting and big challenges, and they're not all in the same weight class at Strikeforce," Henderson said. "We'll see what happens.
"If I was the only guy over there and would walk through everybody that they had, I wouldn't have gone over. Strikeforce has some guys that are going to challenge me. I don't do this just for the money or whatever. I do it for the challenge. If none of these matchups were going to excite me or give me goosebumps, then I'm not going to do it. I do have goosebumps thinking about pretty much all three of their champions at those weight classes."
Henderson said he's not sure when he'll debut for the organization, but he's certain it will be broadcast on CBS. The former dual-weight class title holder also needs to figure out in which division he'll first compete.
"[My first Strikeforce fight] will be on the next CBS show, and I'm not sure when that is," Henderson said. "I've still got about four months, probably. We're not exactly sure of the date.
"Pretty much, after the first of the year, when the dust settles, I'm going to kind of figure out what weight class I want to fight."
Whether or not Henderson made the right move in coming to Strikeforce will be determined in the coming years. But after feeling disrespected by the UFC for a variety of reasons – including a less-than-desired contract offer and the hesitance to grant Henderson a second shot at Anderson Silva – the 39-year-old said he feels very comfortable with his decision.
Time well tell whether others follow "Hollywood's" lead.
"I was happy with every aspect of [the Strikeforce offer], money included," Henderson said. "Obviously, they were really adamant about wanting to try and sign me, so obviously they were very respectful. Dana has a reputation of not being so respectful. That's just how he is, and I think the fans know that. They also know and respect the fact that Dana's done a lot of great things for MMA. I appreciate that as well.
"I don't have any hard feelings. It is what it is now, and I finally decided where my next fight's going to be. I'm excited to start training and getting in shape and going over there to beat somebody up in Strikeforce."|||Competition will benefit the fighters and the fans. Don't be surprise if you see GSP fighting live on Spike next year.|||
Indeed, I hope Strikeforce can survive.
Maybe the UFC will start putting on some quality cards again now. In the past the mentality was like "they will buy it anyways, they have nowhere else to go".
I wouldnt mind seeing some of fighters in the UFC that can never get past the title defender, switching towards Strikeforce. Atleast we can finally see some exciting matchups then (GSP vs A.Silva), and the fighters that switch over will bring alot more excitement at the other side. :)|||
What's probably going to happen is the UFC is going to start paying it's top level guys more for exclusive contracts in the UFC while sharing mid level fighters with Strikeforce on non-exclusive contracts. I see both leagues splitting the talent and eventually evening out with exclusive top 5-10 fighters in each league with shared contenders (>10 level guys bouncing back and fourth). Also fighters with names in Asia/Europe not yet in the UFC will possibly consider signing in with Strikeforce to keep their image rights so they can still do commercials/keep their sponsers across seas.
Henderson is way better at presenting himself for interviews then Rogers was. He also represents the sport better since he comes off more as an athlete then just a thug (no disrespect to Rogers but he comes from the streets which is evident in the way he talks and presents himself). So I see Strikeforce using Hendo on the talk show circuit once his upcoming fight happens. Hendo does have a pretty good fanbase (American and Asian) thanks to his dominating performances in Pride and the TUF reality show (along with KOing vastly overrated Bisping). The fact that Strikeforce is looking to make Hendo the face of Strikeforce in whatever division he chooses to fight in, makes me believe there's a good chance we might see him in EA MMA, if not in 2010 then hopefully in 2011 as DLC.
I'm glad to see Strikeforce will allow Henderson to fight at what ever weight class he chooses. I'm still annoyed the UFC won't allow Anderson Silva to go to HW or fight at Welterweight, which is a lose for the fans (good business choice on UFC's part). More then likely we'll see a Strikeforce middleweight and LHW champion Henderson in 2010 with a title shot against HW champion Fedor (if Alistair ever fights him) in 2011 and then retirement in 2012.
Strikeforce really needed another main card attraction other then Fedor so it doesn't fall prey to the EliteXC's mistake of only marketing one fighter (though Fedor lives up to the hype way better then Silce). It can now alternate between Hendo main card fights and Fedor main card fights.
I'm looking forward to Hendo's time in Strikeforce, I think he should fight in Middleweight just cause I believe the competition to be stiffer then strikeforce's LHW division.
When rumblings began several months back that Dan Henderson (25-7) might be walking away from the UFC, many viewed the former PRIDE champ's negotiations with Strikeforce as mere posturing.
When Strikeforce announced on Monday that Henderson had officially signed on with the promotion, many began to wonder who might be next.
Today, Henderson told MMAjunkie.com Radio (www.mmajunkie.com/radio) that he wouldn't be surprised if more top-level fighters follow his example and explore options outside of the sport's biggest promotion.
"It's inevitable," Henderson said. "For a while, there wasn't any other options, and fighters were not really keen on that idea of not having a place to shop around. They weren't real happy with the UFC kind of having a monopoly on everything. It's their way or the highway, and now there is another option. That makes [fighters] feel a little more comfortable."
UFC president Dana White has repeatedly said Henderson's contract expectations were unrealistic during their recent negotiations. Henderson believes that to be untrue, and he said he was very happy with what Strikeforce was able to offer.
"I'm pretty happy with every aspect of [my Strikeforce contract]," Henderson said. "I'm excited to be able to fight on CBS – that seems like it would be a pretty cool deal – and to be able to bring new fans to the sport, which is what's going to happen with CBS."
The network-television deal Strikeforce has with CBS will undoubtedly expose Henderson to new fans. And Henderson believes he'll be able to do the same for Strikeforce as the organization centers on him as a focus of its U.S. marketing.
"I believe that was their objective by signing me," Henderson said. "They want to make sure that they use me as their marquee guy in the U.S.
"Fedor Emelianenko, as great as he is of a fighter, he's not that well-known in the U.S., and he doesn't speak English. It's a little tougher for them to send him out to different shows to help market Strikeforce."
Additionally, Henderson thinks Emelianenko would actually be an ideal opponent for him at some point during his new contract. But current middleweight champ Jake Shields and light heavyweight title holder Gegard Mousasi are also on his radar.
"There will be bouncing around, I'm sure, based on the fact that there's a lot of guys that are interesting and big challenges, and they're not all in the same weight class at Strikeforce," Henderson said. "We'll see what happens.
"If I was the only guy over there and would walk through everybody that they had, I wouldn't have gone over. Strikeforce has some guys that are going to challenge me. I don't do this just for the money or whatever. I do it for the challenge. If none of these matchups were going to excite me or give me goosebumps, then I'm not going to do it. I do have goosebumps thinking about pretty much all three of their champions at those weight classes."
Henderson said he's not sure when he'll debut for the organization, but he's certain it will be broadcast on CBS. The former dual-weight class title holder also needs to figure out in which division he'll first compete.
"[My first Strikeforce fight] will be on the next CBS show, and I'm not sure when that is," Henderson said. "I've still got about four months, probably. We're not exactly sure of the date.
"Pretty much, after the first of the year, when the dust settles, I'm going to kind of figure out what weight class I want to fight."
Whether or not Henderson made the right move in coming to Strikeforce will be determined in the coming years. But after feeling disrespected by the UFC for a variety of reasons – including a less-than-desired contract offer and the hesitance to grant Henderson a second shot at Anderson Silva – the 39-year-old said he feels very comfortable with his decision.
Time well tell whether others follow "Hollywood's" lead.
"I was happy with every aspect of [the Strikeforce offer], money included," Henderson said. "Obviously, they were really adamant about wanting to try and sign me, so obviously they were very respectful. Dana has a reputation of not being so respectful. That's just how he is, and I think the fans know that. They also know and respect the fact that Dana's done a lot of great things for MMA. I appreciate that as well.
"I don't have any hard feelings. It is what it is now, and I finally decided where my next fight's going to be. I'm excited to start training and getting in shape and going over there to beat somebody up in Strikeforce."|||Competition will benefit the fighters and the fans. Don't be surprise if you see GSP fighting live on Spike next year.|||
Competition will benefit the fighters and the fans. Don't be surprise if you see GSP fighting live on Spike next year.
Indeed, I hope Strikeforce can survive.
Maybe the UFC will start putting on some quality cards again now. In the past the mentality was like "they will buy it anyways, they have nowhere else to go".
I wouldnt mind seeing some of fighters in the UFC that can never get past the title defender, switching towards Strikeforce. Atleast we can finally see some exciting matchups then (GSP vs A.Silva), and the fighters that switch over will bring alot more excitement at the other side. :)|||
Today, Henderson told MMAjunkie.com Radio (www.mmajunkie.com/radio) that he wouldn't be surprised if more top-level fighters follow his example and explore options outside of the sport's biggest promotion.
"It's inevitable," Henderson said. "For a while, there wasn't any other options, and fighters were not really keen on that idea of not having a place to shop around. They weren't real happy with the UFC kind of having a monopoly on everything. It's their way or the highway, and now there is another option. That makes [fighters] feel a little more comfortable."
What's probably going to happen is the UFC is going to start paying it's top level guys more for exclusive contracts in the UFC while sharing mid level fighters with Strikeforce on non-exclusive contracts. I see both leagues splitting the talent and eventually evening out with exclusive top 5-10 fighters in each league with shared contenders (>10 level guys bouncing back and fourth). Also fighters with names in Asia/Europe not yet in the UFC will possibly consider signing in with Strikeforce to keep their image rights so they can still do commercials/keep their sponsers across seas.
"I'm pretty happy with every aspect of [my Strikeforce contract]," Henderson said. "I'm excited to be able to fight on CBS – that seems like it would be a pretty cool deal – and to be able to bring new fans to the sport, which is what's going to happen with CBS."
The network-television deal Strikeforce has with CBS will undoubtedly expose Henderson to new fans. And Henderson believes he'll be able to do the same for Strikeforce as the organization centers on him as a focus of its U.S. marketing.
"I believe that was their objective by signing me," Henderson said. "They want to make sure that they use me as their marquee guy in the U.S.
Henderson is way better at presenting himself for interviews then Rogers was. He also represents the sport better since he comes off more as an athlete then just a thug (no disrespect to Rogers but he comes from the streets which is evident in the way he talks and presents himself). So I see Strikeforce using Hendo on the talk show circuit once his upcoming fight happens. Hendo does have a pretty good fanbase (American and Asian) thanks to his dominating performances in Pride and the TUF reality show (along with KOing vastly overrated Bisping). The fact that Strikeforce is looking to make Hendo the face of Strikeforce in whatever division he chooses to fight in, makes me believe there's a good chance we might see him in EA MMA, if not in 2010 then hopefully in 2011 as DLC.
Additionally, Henderson thinks Emelianenko would actually be an ideal opponent for him at some point during his new contract. But current middleweight champ Jake Shields and light heavyweight title holder Gegard Mousasi are also on his radar.
"There will be bouncing around, I'm sure, based on the fact that there's a lot of guys that are interesting and big challenges, and they're not all in the same weight class at Strikeforce," Henderson said. "We'll see what happens.
"If I was the only guy over there and would walk through everybody that they had, I wouldn't have gone over. Strikeforce has some guys that are going to challenge me. I don't do this just for the money or whatever. I do it for the challenge. If none of these matchups were going to excite me or give me goosebumps, then I'm not going to do it. I do have goosebumps thinking about pretty much all three of their champions at those weight classes."
I'm glad to see Strikeforce will allow Henderson to fight at what ever weight class he chooses. I'm still annoyed the UFC won't allow Anderson Silva to go to HW or fight at Welterweight, which is a lose for the fans (good business choice on UFC's part). More then likely we'll see a Strikeforce middleweight and LHW champion Henderson in 2010 with a title shot against HW champion Fedor (if Alistair ever fights him) in 2011 and then retirement in 2012.
"[My first Strikeforce fight] will be on the next CBS show, and I'm not sure when that is," Henderson said. "I've still got about four months, probably. We're not exactly sure of the date.
Strikeforce really needed another main card attraction other then Fedor so it doesn't fall prey to the EliteXC's mistake of only marketing one fighter (though Fedor lives up to the hype way better then Silce). It can now alternate between Hendo main card fights and Fedor main card fights.
I'm looking forward to Hendo's time in Strikeforce, I think he should fight in Middleweight just cause I believe the competition to be stiffer then strikeforce's LHW division.
Where can I download MMA fights?
Well basicly I just want to know where I can download MMA fights so I can fill my Ipod with them....|||
torrentz.com
you need bittorrent as well but i have abou 10 strikeforce events, all the dream events and a * of k-1|||Thanks, I'm looking to get a lot of Dream and a lot of WEC really! Obviously some UFC and Strikeforce too!|||oh i forgot 99% are avi so you need a video converter 2|||Do you know anywhere I can get a free one?|||
http://www.any-video-converter.com/products/for_video_free/
its free and decent quality for ipod|||Thanks man, really helpful!
Well basicly I just want to know where I can download MMA fights so I can fill my Ipod with them....
torrentz.com
you need bittorrent as well but i have abou 10 strikeforce events, all the dream events and a * of k-1|||Thanks, I'm looking to get a lot of Dream and a lot of WEC really! Obviously some UFC and Strikeforce too!|||oh i forgot 99% are avi so you need a video converter 2|||Do you know anywhere I can get a free one?|||
Do you know anywhere I can get a free one?
http://www.any-video-converter.com/products/for_video_free/
its free and decent quality for ipod|||Thanks man, really helpful!
Shields on Strikeforce/UFC
On his release:
On how Strikeforce treated him:
On his negoiations:
On the UFC:
On Potential matchups:
On when he'll sign with the UFC
On Dana, the Fertitta's and Joe Silva
On his teammate's following him to the octagon
''It came as kind of a surprise''
then
''I hadn’t really been talking to Strikeforce and pretty much everyone knows that I want to go to the UFC.''
then
''We got our negotiations going with the UFC and they (Strikeforce) dropped me without any warning and it came out of nowhere''
Is Jake on crack? He expected Strikforce to help him make more money by staying in the biding war when he knows hes going to the UFC.
Talking about loyalty & being treated like a Champ of the promotion. Hes posing at the competing promotion with Dana White at every recent UFC/WEC Event. He can't be serious.|||i like shields style (more cesar gracie) and think both sides have a legit argument, but good for coker to not let SF be used in negotiations. It’s been obvious for sometime that shields was looking to leave & sitting on DWs lap with the infamous 'hes mine' jab was prob the last straw...
i think if he would have acted like the SF champ up until the (obvious) end, they would have treated him a little more like one (but seriously doubt it changes anything). its nothing more than they both knew this was coming and were acting accordingly.
the minute he was seen on the UFC broadcast, he was with the UFC in cokers eyes im sure. dont necessarily agree with it, but i do understand not wanting to give him more facetime on SF broadcasts as the champ when it would only add to the embarassment of him leaving for a rival org.
same as how, while he was still w/SF, he was very rarely seen on TUF though he was one of chucks main coaches. it was an obvious effort to keep him off camera. they are not in to promoting fighters from other promotions...if he was with UFC then, im sure we would have seen alot more shields...just as if negotiations were honest and there was a geniune interest in both parties to return, he would have had a seat @ the SF event.|||Well Strikeforce did send Mayhem Miller into the cage at the end of Shields last match to upstage him so....|||
You made some good points. I like shields in everything but he cant expect a red carpet treatment when hes acting the way is in the public eye.
ALSO NO ONE REPLY TO THE EMO GUY, HE IS JUST TROLLING. IGNORE HIM FROM NOW ON & HE WILL GO AWAY. I SEE PEOPLE CONSTANTLY REPLYING TO THE GUY....PLEASE DONT TAKE HIS COMMENTS SERIOUSLY.|||so everyone knew you wanted to go to UFC and you're surprised when Strikeforce released you.
um numbnuts what did you expect strikeforce to beg and plead with you to stay with them, or them to make you more money by getting into a bidding war with the UFC, a war everyone knew they wouldn't win.
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we all know he is a troll, but the better question is how incompetent are the mods on this forum that a known troll is still here posting.|||I don't know guys lol, I can dig up that Dan Hendrson signs to SF thread which would make a few of you in here look a bit hypocritical lol.
Shields being treated like crap before leaving is stupid on SF's part imo (IF its true). Even if they knew he was going to leave, he gave that org ALOT while he was there, and did what he could. You can't blame Jake for wanting to leave, SF has had MASSIVE amounts of problems siging strong competition at 170 and 185, and Jake has ran through many of the top guys they have signed allready.
SF should have just been classy and given him the time of day till the end even though they knew he was leaving. I mean, after all boys, this is the type of crap many of you call the UFC out for doing.|||He shouldn't have been negotiating with Dana while he was still in Strikeforce. I'm glad he's gone, his fights were boring IMO and now we get a Middleweight Tournament!|||
Dan Henderson agrees with you.
And while we can speculate all we want to, officialy the UFC DID not negotiate with Jake until his cntract ran out recently. In fact, ythe UFC hasn't even signed Shields yet. I'm sure if the UFC really was negotiating with Jake for that long, a deal would be done allready...ala Dan Henderson getting a deal done pretty quick with SF when he became a free agent.|||I dont see how Jake says SF doesnt support new talent? King Mo is everywhere! Miller is everywhere! Mousari (sp) is everywhere! I have to agree with everyone else on this one. Jake created this problem now is trying to point the finger in the opposite direction. I also find it funny how he jumps the bandwagon of the "top show" but doesnt realize that UFC can end up like Pride then and SF could be like the UFC now. He seems not to be too loyal. Im waiting to see how Dana treats him wants sign and then throw him away like he does everyone else that doesnt meet his standards. One thing the UFC is good at is letting go fighters prematurely.|||
Haha. No way, not even close to happening right now.
The way M-1 Global is strong arming SF over this Fedor loss alone is proof that SF can't get thier own sh*t together. The UFC is the most stable MMA org in the world by faaaaaaar right now.
And I will also point out that Dan Henderson had similar issues on the flip side of this and I don't remember anyone on this site giving the UFC the benefit of the doubt. But now, in this case, its the fighter who is wrong and the org that is right lol?
People on this site are just dying inside to see anything the UFC does fail lol. Let it go, Jake isn't even saying anything horrible, he is just calling them out on small crap that is juvenile for them to pull in the first place (thats why I beleive what he's saying BTW, its stupid stuff).|||I agree it is a small thing, but i see why both sides are doing what they are doing. I see SF in the same shoes the UFC was in during the Pride area. They didnt no what to do, things were rocky, contracts were crazy, and the company seemd to be failing. At that time who would have thought Pride would go belly up? Like today who would think the UFC could go belly up? I dont wish any bad to any MMA org. I have a problem with Dana White not the UFC or its fighters. I see Strikeforce being a main attraction with five years from now and see them really being a threat to a lot of people. I think the M1 issue is not as bad as it seems and that although Fedor is a key. It is a key that is only good for 2 more years if that. I wish Jake best of luck and am glad he is going to a place where "he thinks" he will be happy. Im a huge SF fan because in tired of the UFC and what they stand for (not saying it is bad). Im looking for new fighters and a new perception of MMA for me Strikeforce is that remedy.
“It came as kind of a surprise. I hadn’t really been talking to Strikeforce and pretty much everyone knows that I want to go to the UFC. We got our negotiations going with the UFC and they (Strikeforce) dropped me without any warning and it came out of nowhere. It is what it is and I’m moving ahead with the UFC contract and hopefully that will be worked out soon.”
On how Strikeforce treated him:
“They certainly didn’t treat me like a champion. I went up there thinking that I was the champion, didn’t have any tickets and wasn’t able to get in. Finally one of the Showtime guys was able to get me in and then Scott Coker had some tickets for me but they were way way way up in the stands where I barely could see and I was really surprised because I didn’t realize that is how Strikeforce treats their champs. At that point I didn’t realize that we weren’t negotiating anymore and first off they didn’t give me any tickets and when they did they were in the nosebleed seats. Finally one of the Showtime guys was able to get me down in the front row. They obviously wanted Henderson to win from the beginning and they were a little upset about that but I guess they just got mad at me for winning.”
On his negoiations:
“I’m just talking to UFC at this point and I’m sure we will work something out. I’ve really wanted to fight for the UFC for about a year or so and it just wouldn’t make sense for me to fight anywhere else. Especially if Dana White and the Fertitta brothers and everyone at the UFC is being really fair and it just wouldn’t make sense for me to go elsewhere.”
On the UFC:
“That is why I didn’t resign. Strikeforce is a great show and overall I have nothing bad to say about them even though we have seen some things differently at this point. But right now they are clearly the number two organization and the UFC is clearly the show to be in right now. I think I’m in my prime and I’ve had a great first part of my career and I feel it’s time to go to the big show.”
On Potential matchups:
“Nothing is 100% at this point and right now I’m just training and worrying about that. Right now I’ve been lifting a lot trying to get big and stay big. If it needed to be and they really needed me down I would drop back down to 70. I wouldn’t mind having my first fight up there but I am comfortable at 175 and really do want to drop down to 170.”
On when he'll sign with the UFC
“It’s hard to put exact times on it because it’s one of those things. The numbers have to go back and forth, my dad’s lawyers will look over them and the UFC’s lawyers will look over them but I don’t think it’ll take that long. I think this point we are done with Strikeforce and I think we are pretty close to coming to an agreement. Because at this point I want to fight in the UFC and they say that they want me and there is no reason why we can’t get this done soon. I’m training my * right now and I’m ready to go. I just want to get this contract done and I hope that they have a fight ready for me. Like I said I’ve always been a person who will step anytime…whenever and I’m just hoping that they will give me a big name right off the bat. I wanna go out there and show that I belong with the top dogs.”
On Dana, the Fertitta's and Joe Silva
“The UFC has been absolutely great to me throughout the negotiations. Dana White, Lorenzo and Frank Fertitta and Joe Silva have all called to congratulate me. They always answer my calls right away. If I need tickets they get me the tickets right away. I’m brand new to the UFC but they have treated me absolutely wonderful much better than Strikeforce to this point. They return my phone calls and I get seats unlike Strikeforce but so far things have been absolutely perfect.”
On his teammate's following him to the octagon
|||Told you Strikeforce was a B level show|||I don't buy it... I call B.S.|||^^Its legit, it came from BJPENN.COM interview.
“I don’t want to knock Strikeforce because that’s not my style even though they did treat me like * which was unnecessary because I never talked bad about them. Honestly I would love to see Gilbert and Nick in the UFC. Even though Strikeforce is a good show, everyone knows it’s the number two show. They have a handful of good fighters but all the top competition is in the UFC and I feel that Nick and Gilbert are good enough to fight at the highest level. I would love to see them come over and once I get signed I’ll have to put that in Dana’s ear. I think they are two of the best of the best. I know the UFC likes having the best of the best and it just makes sense for them to be there. I know Nick and the UFC had a few issues before and I’m pretty sure it isn’t anything that couldn’t be pushed aside. I mean…who doesn’t like to watch Nick Diaz fight? I think all the fighters pretty much say that Nick is their favorite fighter. I’m Nick’s friend but he’s still my favorite fighter to watch. Even though I train with him I still have no idea what he is going to do when he fights. He is so much fun to watch fight, the interviews he does, his don’t care attitude and he could be a complete fan favorite if he had the marketing strength behind him. I just don’t see Strikeforce putting the marketing strength behind him as they didn’t for me. I feel like they (Strikeforce) want to go after the places that have already been built like Shamrock or Cung Le. They don’t seem really interested in building top young fighters in their prime. They had a great batch of young fighters like me, Nick, Gil and King Mo but they weren’t interested in great young fighters and instead all the push went to “has beens” like Shamrock and Cung Le. It seemed like they wanted to push people who were no where near their prime.”
''It came as kind of a surprise''
then
''I hadn’t really been talking to Strikeforce and pretty much everyone knows that I want to go to the UFC.''
then
''We got our negotiations going with the UFC and they (Strikeforce) dropped me without any warning and it came out of nowhere''
Is Jake on crack? He expected Strikforce to help him make more money by staying in the biding war when he knows hes going to the UFC.
Talking about loyalty & being treated like a Champ of the promotion. Hes posing at the competing promotion with Dana White at every recent UFC/WEC Event. He can't be serious.|||i like shields style (more cesar gracie) and think both sides have a legit argument, but good for coker to not let SF be used in negotiations. It’s been obvious for sometime that shields was looking to leave & sitting on DWs lap with the infamous 'hes mine' jab was prob the last straw...
i think if he would have acted like the SF champ up until the (obvious) end, they would have treated him a little more like one (but seriously doubt it changes anything). its nothing more than they both knew this was coming and were acting accordingly.
the minute he was seen on the UFC broadcast, he was with the UFC in cokers eyes im sure. dont necessarily agree with it, but i do understand not wanting to give him more facetime on SF broadcasts as the champ when it would only add to the embarassment of him leaving for a rival org.
same as how, while he was still w/SF, he was very rarely seen on TUF though he was one of chucks main coaches. it was an obvious effort to keep him off camera. they are not in to promoting fighters from other promotions...if he was with UFC then, im sure we would have seen alot more shields...just as if negotiations were honest and there was a geniune interest in both parties to return, he would have had a seat @ the SF event.|||Well Strikeforce did send Mayhem Miller into the cage at the end of Shields last match to upstage him so....|||
i like shields style (more cesar gracie) and think both sides have a legit argument, but good for coker to not let SF be used in negotiations. It’s been obvious for sometime that shields was looking to leave & sitting on DWs lap with the infamous 'hes mine' jab was prob the last straw...
i think if he would have acted like the SF champ up until the (obvious) end, they would have treated him a little more like one (but seriously doubt it changes anything). its nothing more than they both knew this was coming and were acting accordingly.
the minute he was seen on the UFC broadcast, he was with the UFC in cokers eyes im sure. dont necessarily agree with it, but i do understand not wanting to give him more facetime on SF broadcasts as the champ when it would only add to the embarassment of him leaving for a rival org.
same as how, while he was still w/SF, he was very rarely seen on TUF though he was one of chucks main coaches. it was an obvious effort to keep him off camera. they are not in to promoting fighters from other promotions...if he was with UFC then, im sure we would have seen alot more shields...just as if negotiations were honest and there was a geniune interest in both parties to return, he would have had a seat @ the SF event.
You made some good points. I like shields in everything but he cant expect a red carpet treatment when hes acting the way is in the public eye.
ALSO NO ONE REPLY TO THE EMO GUY, HE IS JUST TROLLING. IGNORE HIM FROM NOW ON & HE WILL GO AWAY. I SEE PEOPLE CONSTANTLY REPLYING TO THE GUY....PLEASE DONT TAKE HIS COMMENTS SERIOUSLY.|||so everyone knew you wanted to go to UFC and you're surprised when Strikeforce released you.
um numbnuts what did you expect strikeforce to beg and plead with you to stay with them, or them to make you more money by getting into a bidding war with the UFC, a war everyone knew they wouldn't win.
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ALSO NO ONE REPLY TO THE EMO GUY, HE IS JUST TROLLING. IGNORE HIM FROM NOW ON & HE WILL GO AWAY. I SEE PEOPLE CONSTANTLY REPLYING TO THE GUY....PLEASE DONT TAKE HIS COMMENTS SERIOUSLY.
we all know he is a troll, but the better question is how incompetent are the mods on this forum that a known troll is still here posting.|||I don't know guys lol, I can dig up that Dan Hendrson signs to SF thread which would make a few of you in here look a bit hypocritical lol.
Shields being treated like crap before leaving is stupid on SF's part imo (IF its true). Even if they knew he was going to leave, he gave that org ALOT while he was there, and did what he could. You can't blame Jake for wanting to leave, SF has had MASSIVE amounts of problems siging strong competition at 170 and 185, and Jake has ran through many of the top guys they have signed allready.
SF should have just been classy and given him the time of day till the end even though they knew he was leaving. I mean, after all boys, this is the type of crap many of you call the UFC out for doing.|||He shouldn't have been negotiating with Dana while he was still in Strikeforce. I'm glad he's gone, his fights were boring IMO and now we get a Middleweight Tournament!|||
He shouldn't have been negotiating with Dana while he was still in Strikeforce. I'm glad he's gone, his fights were boring IMO and now we get a Middleweight Tournament!
Dan Henderson agrees with you.
And while we can speculate all we want to, officialy the UFC DID not negotiate with Jake until his cntract ran out recently. In fact, ythe UFC hasn't even signed Shields yet. I'm sure if the UFC really was negotiating with Jake for that long, a deal would be done allready...ala Dan Henderson getting a deal done pretty quick with SF when he became a free agent.|||I dont see how Jake says SF doesnt support new talent? King Mo is everywhere! Miller is everywhere! Mousari (sp) is everywhere! I have to agree with everyone else on this one. Jake created this problem now is trying to point the finger in the opposite direction. I also find it funny how he jumps the bandwagon of the "top show" but doesnt realize that UFC can end up like Pride then and SF could be like the UFC now. He seems not to be too loyal. Im waiting to see how Dana treats him wants sign and then throw him away like he does everyone else that doesnt meet his standards. One thing the UFC is good at is letting go fighters prematurely.|||
I dont see how Jake says SF doesnt support new talent? King Mo is everywhere! Miller is everywhere! Mousari (sp) is everywhere! I have to agree with everyone else on this one. Jake created this problem now is trying to point the finger in the opposite direction. I also find it funny how he jumps the bandwagon of the "top show" but doesnt realize that UFC can end up like Pride then and SF could be like the UFC now. He seems not to be too loyal. Im waiting to see how Dana treats him wants sign and then throw him away like he does everyone else that doesnt meet his standards. One thing the UFC is good at is letting go fighters prematurely.
Haha. No way, not even close to happening right now.
The way M-1 Global is strong arming SF over this Fedor loss alone is proof that SF can't get thier own sh*t together. The UFC is the most stable MMA org in the world by faaaaaaar right now.
And I will also point out that Dan Henderson had similar issues on the flip side of this and I don't remember anyone on this site giving the UFC the benefit of the doubt. But now, in this case, its the fighter who is wrong and the org that is right lol?
People on this site are just dying inside to see anything the UFC does fail lol. Let it go, Jake isn't even saying anything horrible, he is just calling them out on small crap that is juvenile for them to pull in the first place (thats why I beleive what he's saying BTW, its stupid stuff).|||I agree it is a small thing, but i see why both sides are doing what they are doing. I see SF in the same shoes the UFC was in during the Pride area. They didnt no what to do, things were rocky, contracts were crazy, and the company seemd to be failing. At that time who would have thought Pride would go belly up? Like today who would think the UFC could go belly up? I dont wish any bad to any MMA org. I have a problem with Dana White not the UFC or its fighters. I see Strikeforce being a main attraction with five years from now and see them really being a threat to a lot of people. I think the M1 issue is not as bad as it seems and that although Fedor is a key. It is a key that is only good for 2 more years if that. I wish Jake best of luck and am glad he is going to a place where "he thinks" he will be happy. Im a huge SF fan because in tired of the UFC and what they stand for (not saying it is bad). Im looking for new fighters and a new perception of MMA for me Strikeforce is that remedy.
Hilarious Chael Sonnen Interview On MMA Live
Hilarious Chael Sonnen Interview On MMA Live | Steve Rattlesnake|||I am a member of the Republican War Wagon '10
|||Sonnen sucks, this coming from a Republican.|||hes going to get murked by anderson !|||
Sonnen ROCKS. And this is coming from an Oregonian.
|||Sonnen sucks, this coming from a Republican.|||hes going to get murked by anderson !|||
Sonnen sucks, this coming from a Republican.
Sonnen ROCKS. And this is coming from an Oregonian.
Gomi vs. Griffin.
Anyone else think this fis the nest fight on the card?
I think this fight will defiantly be FotN
I think this fight will defiantly be FotN
K1 Final 16 Card
Is close to complete.
K-1 World Grand Prix 2010 in Seoul -Final 16
Ewerton Teixeira vs Peter Aerts (Confirmed by Aerts in an interview)
Gökhan Saki vs Melvin Manhoef (Unconfirmed Rumor)
Ruslan Karaev vs Tyrone Spong (Confirmed by Team Mr Perfect)
Jérôme Le Banner vs Keijiro Maeda (Confirmed by K-1)
Errol Zimmerman vs Daniel Ghita (Confirmed by Ghita in an interview)
Alistair Overeem vs Ben Edwards (Confirmed by K-1)
Badr Hari vs Freddy Kemayo (Unconfirmed Rumor)
Semmy Schilt vs Hesdy Gerges (Confirmed by Chakuriki Gym)
Super Fight :
Sergei Kharitonov vs Jan Soukup (Unconfirmed Rumor)
Chalid "Die Faust" Arrab vs Dzevad Poturak (Unconfirmed Rumor) |||Freddy Kemayo huh? He did great in the Budapest GP earlier this year.|||should be an entertaining event to say the least. Only down fall is the time difference so I will most likely be using dvr to be able to watch.
K-1 World Grand Prix 2010 in Seoul -Final 16
Ewerton Teixeira vs Peter Aerts (Confirmed by Aerts in an interview)
Gökhan Saki vs Melvin Manhoef (Unconfirmed Rumor)
Ruslan Karaev vs Tyrone Spong (Confirmed by Team Mr Perfect)
Jérôme Le Banner vs Keijiro Maeda (Confirmed by K-1)
Errol Zimmerman vs Daniel Ghita (Confirmed by Ghita in an interview)
Alistair Overeem vs Ben Edwards (Confirmed by K-1)
Badr Hari vs Freddy Kemayo (Unconfirmed Rumor)
Semmy Schilt vs Hesdy Gerges (Confirmed by Chakuriki Gym)
Super Fight :
Sergei Kharitonov vs Jan Soukup (Unconfirmed Rumor)
Chalid "Die Faust" Arrab vs Dzevad Poturak (Unconfirmed Rumor) |||Freddy Kemayo huh? He did great in the Budapest GP earlier this year.|||should be an entertaining event to say the least. Only down fall is the time difference so I will most likely be using dvr to be able to watch.
Velasquez out 6-8 months
http://www.mmafighting.com/2010/12/29/ufc-heavyweight-champ-cain-velasquez-out-6-8-months-with-shoulde/
2011 not looking good for the UFC HW division.
2011 not looking good for the UFC HW division.
Jones Out, Davis in vs Evans at UFC 133
http://mmaweekly.com/jon-bones-jones-injured-rashad-evans-faces-phil-davis-at-ufc-133|||Rashad can never have a title shot.|||*
CFC 3
Now I live in Winnipeg, and we never get any decent MMA events here, EVER. CFC 3 will be here this year on November 13th and I am quite happ with the co main events!
Rodrigo Munduruca vs. Dan Christison
and
Claude Patick vs. Dan Grandmaison
Both main bouts will be Ref'ed by Big John McCarthy
also on the card will be -
Agostino Denatale
Chris Stranger
Eric Perez
Linsey Hawkes
Dominick Blais
Sean Quinn
* Lance Cartwright
and Many more
tell me what you think about this card.
Rodrigo Munduruca vs. Dan Christison
and
Claude Patick vs. Dan Grandmaison
Both main bouts will be Ref'ed by Big John McCarthy
also on the card will be -
Agostino Denatale
Chris Stranger
Eric Perez
Linsey Hawkes
Dominick Blais
Sean Quinn
* Lance Cartwright
and Many more
tell me what you think about this card.
Ortiz vs Griffin Rematch Sells Only 62% Of Tickets
http://www.fightline.com/news/mma/2009/1126/464608/ufc-106-ortiz-vs-griffin-2/index.shtml
Even though “UFC 106: Ortiz vs. Griffin 2? pulled in a cool $3,003,250 at the gate, the event only sold 6,631 of the available 10,762 tickets. Obviously, these were the after effects of losing its original main event only a month prior to the event.
The UFC comped 3,898 tickets while 223 additional tickets went unsold.
It’ll be interesting to see how the pay-per-view buys do as Ortiz is normally a big draw for the promotion.
Forrest Griffin defeated Tito Ortiz in a re-match of their bout at UFC 59 which Ortiz won by splt decision, prompting talks of a rubber match between the two former light heavyweight champions.
A third fight would probably need to be chaperoned by a bigger fight to make the event, so we’ll see if the UFC wants to put together Ortiz vs. Griffin for a third time.|||:)|||You know for a guy who said "I'm at war with EA", it didn't stop Dana from accepting EA's advertising money for Left4Dead2 and have it plastered all over the arena. To me that isn't war, that's sleeping with the enemy.
Even though “UFC 106: Ortiz vs. Griffin 2? pulled in a cool $3,003,250 at the gate, the event only sold 6,631 of the available 10,762 tickets. Obviously, these were the after effects of losing its original main event only a month prior to the event.
The UFC comped 3,898 tickets while 223 additional tickets went unsold.
It’ll be interesting to see how the pay-per-view buys do as Ortiz is normally a big draw for the promotion.
Forrest Griffin defeated Tito Ortiz in a re-match of their bout at UFC 59 which Ortiz won by splt decision, prompting talks of a rubber match between the two former light heavyweight champions.
A third fight would probably need to be chaperoned by a bigger fight to make the event, so we’ll see if the UFC wants to put together Ortiz vs. Griffin for a third time.|||:)|||You know for a guy who said "I'm at war with EA", it didn't stop Dana from accepting EA's advertising money for Left4Dead2 and have it plastered all over the arena. To me that isn't war, that's sleeping with the enemy.
Wand Fight Team (reality television show)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ff8nxEdEk
WWW.WANDFIGHTTEAM.COM
Looks interesting... What're your thoughts?|||Either I fell for a prank or you linked to the wrong video.... :)|||It was a funny video either way. :)|||http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_pp44dxLXk
some wand team * kicking|||I'm sorry guys (you must think I'm a right idiot now), that was a genuine mistake - here's what I meant to send:
http://www.buddhasport.com/community/videos/id_455/
& here's something else I came across which I thought was kinda cool - Shogun training with Wanderlei:
http://www.buddhasport.com/community/videos/id_457/
Enjoy :)|||Sweet, this will probobly be alot more interesting the TUF(IMO) because TUF is definitly rigged, or at least nudged in a desired direction. I like Kimbo as a person, he is an interesting charecter and definitly a capable athlete, but why did he get into the UFC when he didn't even win? Why did Dana make him go through TUF to get in? To prove himself right? Oh no, it was about ratings thats right.
This could be a great alternative.|||LOR-rolled?
In all seriousness, looks to be decent. Some big names involved too, especially T. Silva, Royler and the Nogs. I like this.|||
Dana said he has to go through TUF... I think he fooled all of us by saying he has to go through TUF but he didnt say he has to win TUF... Haha smartass...|||
Good point|||
Guarentee the only way Kimbo signed on to do TUF in the first place was if Dana gave him a behind the scenes contract to fight in the UFC anyways.....it was kind of obvious to me when Kimbo turned down that fight op late in the show because his knee hurt.....if it was all REALLY on the line for him, no way he turns down that fight.
WWW.WANDFIGHTTEAM.COM
Looks interesting... What're your thoughts?|||Either I fell for a prank or you linked to the wrong video.... :)|||It was a funny video either way. :)|||http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_pp44dxLXk
some wand team * kicking|||I'm sorry guys (you must think I'm a right idiot now), that was a genuine mistake - here's what I meant to send:
http://www.buddhasport.com/community/videos/id_455/
& here's something else I came across which I thought was kinda cool - Shogun training with Wanderlei:
http://www.buddhasport.com/community/videos/id_457/
Enjoy :)|||Sweet, this will probobly be alot more interesting the TUF(IMO) because TUF is definitly rigged, or at least nudged in a desired direction. I like Kimbo as a person, he is an interesting charecter and definitly a capable athlete, but why did he get into the UFC when he didn't even win? Why did Dana make him go through TUF to get in? To prove himself right? Oh no, it was about ratings thats right.
This could be a great alternative.|||LOR-rolled?
In all seriousness, looks to be decent. Some big names involved too, especially T. Silva, Royler and the Nogs. I like this.|||
Sweet, this will probobly be alot more interesting the TUF(IMO) because TUF is definitly rigged, or at least nudged in a desired direction. I like Kimbo as a person, he is an interesting charecter and definitly a capable athlete, but why did he get into the UFC when he didn't even win? Why did Dana make him go through TUF to get in? To prove himself right? Oh no, it was about ratings thats right.
This could be a great alternative.
Dana said he has to go through TUF... I think he fooled all of us by saying he has to go through TUF but he didnt say he has to win TUF... Haha smartass...|||
Sweet, this will probobly be alot more interesting the TUF(IMO) because TUF is definitly rigged, or at least nudged in a desired direction. I like Kimbo as a person, he is an interesting charecter and definitly a capable athlete, but why did he get into the UFC when he didn't even win? Why did Dana make him go through TUF to get in? To prove himself right? Oh no, it was about ratings thats right.
This could be a great alternative.
Dana said he has to go through TUF... I think he fooled all of us by saying he has to go through TUF but he didnt say he has to win TUF... Haha smartass...
Good point|||
Sweet, this will probobly be alot more interesting the TUF(IMO) because TUF is definitly rigged, or at least nudged in a desired direction. I like Kimbo as a person, he is an interesting charecter and definitly a capable athlete, but why did he get into the UFC when he didn't even win? Why did Dana make him go through TUF to get in? To prove himself right? Oh no, it was about ratings thats right.
This could be a great alternative.
Dana said he has to go through TUF... I think he fooled all of us by saying he has to go through TUF but he didnt say he has to win TUF... Haha smartass...
Good point
Guarentee the only way Kimbo signed on to do TUF in the first place was if Dana gave him a behind the scenes contract to fight in the UFC anyways.....it was kind of obvious to me when Kimbo turned down that fight op late in the show because his knee hurt.....if it was all REALLY on the line for him, no way he turns down that fight.
Dana White New Interview with USA TODAY
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/mma/post/2010/04/qa-dana-white-touts-wec-scorns-strikeforce-points-to-ufc-rematch/1?csp=usat.me
I actually agree with dana. But some judges are stupid and gave it 50-45. blind mother f-ers.
and yes i also agree when there are noobs who only think MMA = ufc will assume the brawl happend with UFC. yes nate diaz as involved and he's UFC but strikeforce isnt ufc. that's why it hurts them also.|||Great interview, thanks for posting it. I don't know much about the deal between Coker and Showtime but otherwise I agree with most of what Dana said.|||
Neither do i, but that's like business stuff, i honestly don't care who owns what, who does what, as long as the fights are good im happy.
tho dana can be a * with his strict ufc contracts.....other than that he does say * straight up and thats cool
Actually, that night, I hadn't really scored it. I knew for a fact that Frankie won the third and the fifth, but I thought it was really close. Listen, if they'd have raised BJ's hand and said BJ Penn, I wouldn't have been shocked; it didn't shock me when they raised Frankie's. It was that close.
I actually agree with dana. But some judges are stupid and gave it 50-45. blind mother f-ers.
and yes i also agree when there are noobs who only think MMA = ufc will assume the brawl happend with UFC. yes nate diaz as involved and he's UFC but strikeforce isnt ufc. that's why it hurts them also.|||Great interview, thanks for posting it. I don't know much about the deal between Coker and Showtime but otherwise I agree with most of what Dana said.|||
Great interview, thanks for posting it. I don't know much about the deal between Coker and Showtime but otherwise I agree with most of what Dana said.
Neither do i, but that's like business stuff, i honestly don't care who owns what, who does what, as long as the fights are good im happy.
tho dana can be a * with his strict ufc contracts.....other than that he does say * straight up and thats cool
Dana On Org That Has No Money For Medical Testing: "Go Open A Doughnut Shop...
The death of Michael Kirkham on June 26, the second mixed martial arts death in a sanctioned event in U.S. history, has been a wake up call to the dangers of insufficient regulation, the ramifications of combatants not being forthcoming on licensing applications and the landscape of the sport where new states are approving and local promoters promoting when maybe neither fully understand the tragic consequences of cutting corners.
But UFC president Dana White insists mixed martial arts is not only safe, but the safest sport in the world when correctly regulated.
“This is the safest sport in the world when done properly,” White said when asked about the unfortunate passing of Kirkham...read more|||It's rare I agree with Dana on anything, but he's right that the states need to have money for medical testing. Like I said before Carolina has a soft commission.|||This time I agree with Dana. MMA should be safe and I think MMA is safer than boxing so nobody has to die in the cage. And Yeah if an org doesn't have enough money for medical stuff then they should open a doughnut shop.
|||I too, wouldn't usually agree with Dana on anything but on this, i do. Its pretty discraceful that this was allowed to happen.|||*THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE !!!!!!*
ive seen alot of crazy sh*t go down here, & Iowa knows MMA. drunks pulled to fight from crowd, fighters w/o the proper blood screening, promoters w/o insurance, some cases where NO DR was on site (or even a f*cking ambulance), etc, etc...
there are some f*ckin GREAT promotions here with GREAT people (1st rate regional shows - QC home of a # of great promoters/trainers/fighters), but there is also a cage and some 1/2 * run card on every block almost every weekend here.
its great DW has come out & said this. i actually like that he did it in his typical dana fashion as well. hopefully wake some people up. "go open a doughut shop"...i like it.
regulation began here July 1st. causing many smaller shows, with these metioned problems, to cease operating (mostly the strip clubs). but since, every fighter has been blood tested (or he doesnt fight), there is a ringside physician @ every fight, promoters are carrying insurance, & the commissioner (or a deputy) is present.
nothing but positive things can come from this rant.|||
A fellow Iowan? Nice.
515 representin here.|||
h3ll yeah, NICE...
Iowa knows MMA.
But UFC president Dana White insists mixed martial arts is not only safe, but the safest sport in the world when correctly regulated.
“This is the safest sport in the world when done properly,” White said when asked about the unfortunate passing of Kirkham...read more|||It's rare I agree with Dana on anything, but he's right that the states need to have money for medical testing. Like I said before Carolina has a soft commission.|||This time I agree with Dana. MMA should be safe and I think MMA is safer than boxing so nobody has to die in the cage. And Yeah if an org doesn't have enough money for medical stuff then they should open a doughnut shop.
|||I too, wouldn't usually agree with Dana on anything but on this, i do. Its pretty discraceful that this was allowed to happen.|||*THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE !!!!!!*
ive seen alot of crazy sh*t go down here, & Iowa knows MMA. drunks pulled to fight from crowd, fighters w/o the proper blood screening, promoters w/o insurance, some cases where NO DR was on site (or even a f*cking ambulance), etc, etc...
there are some f*ckin GREAT promotions here with GREAT people (1st rate regional shows - QC home of a # of great promoters/trainers/fighters), but there is also a cage and some 1/2 * run card on every block almost every weekend here.
its great DW has come out & said this. i actually like that he did it in his typical dana fashion as well. hopefully wake some people up. "go open a doughut shop"...i like it.
regulation began here July 1st. causing many smaller shows, with these metioned problems, to cease operating (mostly the strip clubs). but since, every fighter has been blood tested (or he doesnt fight), there is a ringside physician @ every fight, promoters are carrying insurance, & the commissioner (or a deputy) is present.
nothing but positive things can come from this rant.|||
*THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE !!!!!!*
ive seen alot of crazy sh*t go down here, & Iowa knows MMA. drunks pulled to fight from crowd, fighters w/o the proper blood screening, promoters w/o insurance, some cases where NO DR was on site (or even a f*cking ambulance), etc, etc...
there are some f*ckin GREAT promotions here with GREAT people (1st rate regional shows - QC home of a # of great promoters/trainers/fighters), but there is also a cage and some 1/2 * run card on every block almost every weekend here.
its great DW has come out & said this. i actually like that he did it in his typical dana fashion as well. hopefully wake some people up. "go open a doughut shop"...i like it.
regulation began here July 1st. causing many smaller shows, with these metioned problems, to cease operating (mostly the strip clubs). but since, every fighter has been blood tested (or he doesnt fight), there is a ringside physician @ every fight, promoters are carrying insurance, & the commissioner (or a deputy) is present.
nothing but positive things can come from this rant.
A fellow Iowan? Nice.
515 representin here.|||
*THUNDEROUS APPLAUSE !!!!!!*
ive seen alot of crazy sh*t go down here, & Iowa knows MMA. drunks pulled to fight from crowd, fighters w/o the proper blood screening, promoters w/o insurance, some cases where NO DR was on site (or even a f*cking ambulance), etc, etc...
there are some f*ckin GREAT promotions here with GREAT people (1st rate regional shows - QC home of a # of great promoters/trainers/fighters), but there is also a cage and some 1/2 * run card on every block almost every weekend here.
its great DW has come out & said this. i actually like that he did it in his typical dana fashion as well. hopefully wake some people up. "go open a doughut shop"...i like it.
regulation began here July 1st. causing many smaller shows, with these metioned problems, to cease operating (mostly the strip clubs). but since, every fighter has been blood tested (or he doesnt fight), there is a ringside physician @ every fight, promoters are carrying insurance, & the commissioner (or a deputy) is present.
nothing but positive things can come from this rant.
A fellow Iowan? Nice.
515 representin here.
h3ll yeah, NICE...
Iowa knows MMA.
Chael says Lance Armstrong....
gave himself cancer...wtf is up with Chael
http://www.mmamania.com/2010/8/3/1603328/ufc-quick-quote-chael-sonnen-says|||Chael must be on drugs himself so how can he say anything? Some of the stuff he comes out with. :)|||This is why i do not like Chael....|||Now he's saying **** just to be saying it. The man wants to keep people talking about him.|||the should put a pic of chael sonnen under the word douche bag|||
this ^ exactly.
hes fighting silva so everyones watching or hanging on his every word. he will more than likely get his a** handed to him this weekend so his 15 mins are almost up & its back to the end of the line & prob no main event. just milking that spotlight for whatever its worth.
going after armstrong wasnt the smartest thing for a potential politician. regardless if you believe sonnen or not, armstrong is a f*cking icon in US & has done quite a bit for cancer research...and what the f** did phelps do? hit a bong @ a party? guess the worlds coming to an end... :)
cro cop, croatia, armstrong, phelps...keep your sh*t talking for the people you have a real chance @ fighting.
** the new captcha is an improvement**
"When you screw up, you have to own it. That stuff really gets under my skin. Take Lance Armstrong. Lance Armstrong did a number of things and he gave himself cancer. He cheated, he did drugs, and he gave himself cancer. Well, instead of saying ‘Hey listen, I cheated and gave myself cancer, don't be like me.' He actually made himself the victim and then went out and profited something like $15 million dollars from this ‘Hey, poor me, let's find a cure for cancer' campaign instead of just coming clean and saying, ‘Look, here's what I did, I screwed myself up, and I hope people learn from my mistakes.' You just watch these guys and can't help but think, God, what a fraud. You got the whole Michael Phelps being a * thing too. I'm just glad I'm in the business I'm in so I can get them in the cage and kick the crap out of them."
http://www.mmamania.com/2010/8/3/1603328/ufc-quick-quote-chael-sonnen-says|||Chael must be on drugs himself so how can he say anything? Some of the stuff he comes out with. :)|||This is why i do not like Chael....|||Now he's saying **** just to be saying it. The man wants to keep people talking about him.|||the should put a pic of chael sonnen under the word douche bag|||
TheSKSspecial - Now he's saying **** just to be saying it. The man wants to keep people talking about him.
this ^ exactly.
hes fighting silva so everyones watching or hanging on his every word. he will more than likely get his a** handed to him this weekend so his 15 mins are almost up & its back to the end of the line & prob no main event. just milking that spotlight for whatever its worth.
going after armstrong wasnt the smartest thing for a potential politician. regardless if you believe sonnen or not, armstrong is a f*cking icon in US & has done quite a bit for cancer research...and what the f** did phelps do? hit a bong @ a party? guess the worlds coming to an end... :)
cro cop, croatia, armstrong, phelps...keep your sh*t talking for the people you have a real chance @ fighting.
** the new captcha is an improvement**
WATCHIN DREAM 16!!
Predictions??
its 11pm right now its going to be on til 3:30am yee|||Thanks for the reminder man! I completely forgot about it.
Just started watching it and just made it in time for the first match woot woot!|||You missed the epic Drum Intro :)|||
I dont even know if I can watch it now. haha
Thompson is gonna lose.|||
Not a surprise.|||Wow these guys are already tired..
They're making Carwin look like a marathon runner
Thompson take down attempets are absolutely horrible.. He's exhausted and shooting without any short of set up|||Just turned on. That double suplex was awesome :)|||Pleeeeeeeeeease Saku, pull something out of your bag of tricks tonight :)|||Minowamaaan!|||
Sorry. Didn't happen.|||Well that sucks, I'm happy for Miller being the only one that submitted Sakuraba since he backed his talk and that he is a big fan of Sakuraba too. Also glad that Hansen won!
I'll have to watch it next week tho(friday next week on HDnet for those who missed it like me), since Dream 16 was from 2am to 7am for me on HDnet.|||Very depressed after seeing this card...
For his own good, Sakuraba needs to retire. I am a HUGE fan, but I don't want him to go down the Ken Shamrock/Chuck Liddell road.... Have a retirement match at the upcoming Dynamite against whomever and live on as a hero and legend in the sport...
and please folks don't even try to defend Shamrock/Liddell, we ALL know they are done....|||Retirement fight for Sakuraba.....Royce Gracie.
Look how respectful were the Japanese crowd were.Very quiet,no booing and clapping when someone got the full mount.
EA could learn something from that.|||
With respect for what he did for the sport, f*** Royce Gracie. He juiced up for his 2nd fight with Saku, if the Japanese commisions overturned fight decisions after failed drug tests back then Saku would be 2-0 over him.
:)|||drum intro FTW!!!
its 11pm right now its going to be on til 3:30am yee|||Thanks for the reminder man! I completely forgot about it.
Just started watching it and just made it in time for the first match woot woot!|||You missed the epic Drum Intro :)|||
You missed the epic Drum Intro :)
I dont even know if I can watch it now. haha
Thompson is gonna lose.|||
You missed the epic Drum Intro :)
I dont even know if I can watch it now. haha
Thompson is gonna lose.
Not a surprise.|||Wow these guys are already tired..
They're making Carwin look like a marathon runner
Thompson take down attempets are absolutely horrible.. He's exhausted and shooting without any short of set up|||Just turned on. That double suplex was awesome :)|||Pleeeeeeeeeease Saku, pull something out of your bag of tricks tonight :)|||Minowamaaan!
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Pleeeeeeeeeease Saku, pull something out of your bag of tricks tonight :)
Sorry. Didn't happen.|||Well that sucks, I'm happy for Miller being the only one that submitted Sakuraba since he backed his talk and that he is a big fan of Sakuraba too. Also glad that Hansen won!
I'll have to watch it next week tho(friday next week on HDnet for those who missed it like me), since Dream 16 was from 2am to 7am for me on HDnet.|||Very depressed after seeing this card...
For his own good, Sakuraba needs to retire. I am a HUGE fan, but I don't want him to go down the Ken Shamrock/Chuck Liddell road.... Have a retirement match at the upcoming Dynamite against whomever and live on as a hero and legend in the sport...
and please folks don't even try to defend Shamrock/Liddell, we ALL know they are done....|||Retirement fight for Sakuraba.....Royce Gracie.
Look how respectful were the Japanese crowd were.Very quiet,no booing and clapping when someone got the full mount.
EA could learn something from that.|||
Retirement fight for Sakuraba.....Royce Gracie.
With respect for what he did for the sport, f*** Royce Gracie. He juiced up for his 2nd fight with Saku, if the Japanese commisions overturned fight decisions after failed drug tests back then Saku would be 2-0 over him.
:)|||drum intro FTW!!!
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